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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now years

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you know ladies and gentlemen the

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biggest problem we have other than

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having pieces of paper just simply fall

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spontaneously in our offices is to get

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proper connections with Skype now you

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think Skype what's the problem with that

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just call up somebody and connect except

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we tried that for about 10 minutes and

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Chris would hear the tell-tale tones

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somebody's trying to call Emma Scott can

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answer maybe nobody there almost like

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some kind of psychic phenomenon or in

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this case may be a psychotic phenomenon

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you know but definitely a paranormal

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experience here

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Google marvel marveling at the marvels

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of modern technology now now I want to

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give you something about modern

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technology here now in our other radio

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show the tech night out live we very

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frequently talk about audio getting the

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best sound from something and I have a

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little background in that because I used

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to do some work for a guy named Bob

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Carver who's very famous in the audio

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industry so anyway my guest on this

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particular session was talking about an

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article he read in a British audio

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publication where they were talking

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about the sonic differences in the audio

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coming from a regular hard drive a

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network drive and a solid state drive

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and insisted that the audio character of

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the digital audio from each of those

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drives was different

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I'm waiting for you to digest this this

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is has to be a psychic phenomenon or the

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height of illusion I hear the sound of

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silence yes the sound a 1 in 1 hand

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slapping tease I have no idea that one

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hard drive to another it's it's the it's

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the audio card and the sound card and

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the quality of the microphone of the

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speakers I would think right it's

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playback we're talking about the same

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audio production the same computer with

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different hard drives I have no idea

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you're the tech Nite Owl

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I'm just a functioning computer

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illiterate I always thought that the

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quality of sound has to do with the

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quality of the actual recording the

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encoding process and then the decoding

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process the Claudia speakers put in

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anything different than that that's in

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your realm this has to be the psychic

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realm because there is no realm where

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this could possibly exist you know you

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got me I'm an analog man like the Joe

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Walsh song you know I read all my emails

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and delete all my spam I'm an analog man

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alright let's talk about last week's

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episode of after the power cast which

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was partly responsive to the episodes in

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which we talked about Heaven's Gate with

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dr. Benjamin Zeller and it's just

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fascinating here because there's an

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ongoing discussion in our forums arguing

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over whether Heaven's Gate the people

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involved in that movement were really a

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UFO cult it's just one person having

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having taken exception to it everybody

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else as well they talked about UFOs all

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the time but did they actually talk

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about it when they first began 40 years

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ago who cares that they were wing nuts

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they're what make this field toxic to

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academia and to most of the world it's

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people like that to give this field a

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bad name and I don't care if it wasn't

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part of their original manifesto it sure

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became part of it real quick so who

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cares

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they were wing nuts they killed

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themselves because a comment happened to

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fly by and they believed some BS about

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some sort of a companionship to the

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comet I mean they were all walking

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Darwin Award winners I mean they they

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factored themselves out of the gene pool

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retroactive birth control you know and

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then and gave the field of ufology yet

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another smack in the backside and you

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know another black eye would move on

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end of end of rant we can also do a host

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show just about forums and how they take

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on different attitudes and how people

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just will take the most simple argument

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and make it into an endless commentary

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that goes on for 150 messages yeah and

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you know I think people need to uh

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Ratchet back all the intellectualism and

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being in their heads and and try to be

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eloquent with as few words as possible

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those are the types of forum posts I

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like the ones that really make you

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thinking about two sentences instead of

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this paragraph after paragraph after

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paragraph of legal briefs and uh

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semantics and you know going in well you

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have to define this before you can even

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address that who cares how do you really

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feel about this stuff you know what

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what's your gut sort of Zen koan that's

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going to move mountains and influence

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you know entire nation states of people

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it's let's you know cut it down cut the

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verbiage get to the point don't dog

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everybody because they have views that

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are different from yours that's a

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problem with the forums people is always

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trying to convince other people that

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they're wrong and that they're right and

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you know it's it just gets old after a

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while my eyes glaze over I start to

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develop rashes you know what kind of

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rashes we should talk about this but

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don't say anything rash

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it's a ration of the oh my hypothalamus

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or my pineal gland or something I get

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pineal grande right well you know one of

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my friends back in the old days of radio

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his name was RJ kite or Robert kite in

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fact he does some of the voiceovers for

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our other radio show but tech night our

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live and RJ used to talk about how an

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impact is Grizz noid his grit is made

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you think you don't have to ask that

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question you know people would listen to

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this and realize it's nonsense they

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wouldn't ask what a Grizz noid is okay

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I'll bite what's a Grizz nerd gene

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you're not supposed to ask oh I just

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said I'd bite so I did ask so tell me

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what is a Grizz noid well you know like

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it sounds like something that doesn't

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normally see the light of day I think

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that's a fair way to

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hey you know it does see the light of

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day is the fact that we do have that

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other radio show called after the power

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cast and you can hear the kind of things

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that we bring up on that show it's

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sometimes off-the-wall sometimes really

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apt my comments are off-the-wall and

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Chris has things that are very

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appropriate you can get a copy of it if

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you join the power cast plus go-to plus

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get after the power cast which is an

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we've got other stuff on the horizon the

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com now today we don't visit the fantasy

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of UFOs in a religious movement we look

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at the real UFOs and we try to figure

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out what's going on

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tell us Chris about our guest well Jean

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traveled I winged my way east to New

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Jersey for my very first East Coast

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presentation and I spoke at the great

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New Jersey UFO paranormal conference

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that's been held for many many years by

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pat marco tulio

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and dave Stinnett has taken it over and

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David is our guest today he's a really

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great guy I had a wonderful time with

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him we've struck up a friendship now and

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cases that you've investigated some of

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your your research work would be really

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here at the podcast so we have David

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Stinnett who is now the director of the

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twice annual New Jersey UFO conference

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down in the southern part of the state

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in Morgantown this could be a

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fascinating show fascinating episode and

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never met him before but this is going

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to be really fascinating straight ahead

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brick-and-mortar kind of episode you

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know get the solid facts solid

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scientific research that sort of thing

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coming up next with gene and Chris

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first game attack of the Rockets and it

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now there's the coming of the protectors

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a former military intelligence man is

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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

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planet are planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock odes and

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the coming of the protectors find out

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more at Rocco's calm that's Rocco's our

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Ock oids calm so here's what happened I

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was placing an order online the site

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went down it took hours before it

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returned but I'd already placed the

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order with another company if your site

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unemployment at depression levels Europe

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financial system falling apart China

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getting out of US Treasuries at the end

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of 2008 the time of tarp the national

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debt was at eleven trillion gold trading

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around $850 per ounce close to 2012 the

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four trillion gold doubled to $1600

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bronze the twenty trillion threshold for

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the national debt is inevitable

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politicians in Washington have a

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ferocious appetite for spending and

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stimulus what's worse a printing press

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to finance 100 years ago we had a gold

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standard to limit this madness but now

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you have to adopt your own gold standard

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don't be fooled with paper promises get

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Midas resources ten reasons to buy gold

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work you set three alarms drag your feet

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in the shower drink your coffee slowly

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until you're rushing out the door five

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minutes late it's not that you hate your

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job hate is such a strong word you're

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just not that excited about it but most

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people don't love what they do right

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listen if you're local to the Twin

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Stinnett who is involved with an

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organization called the New Jersey UFO

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conference and they of course hold UFO

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conferences in southern New Jersey and I

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used to live in that vicinity until

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about 22 years ago he's got a wide range

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of experience in UFO fieldwork we want

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to know more David welcome to the power

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cast Thank You gene so let us start as

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young as possible how did you get

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involved in studying UFOs I think I

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usually say that like our generation or

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my generation grew up with you know UFOs

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Bigfoot and ghosts so now you're

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watching the old in search of and stuff

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like that so I'd probably say you know

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11 or 12 I started really getting

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interested in this type of stuff but I

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think I ran across the Ted Phillips

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going Ted tolls old films on TV back

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then and and I just thought he had the

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coolest job and I just wanted to you

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know I wanted to check this out so

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basically I just started I think one of

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my first books was Parris LeMans UFO

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exist and Paris is a great researcher in

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his own right but that like really kind

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of started feeding me on

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I'm studying UFOs yeah and so that kind

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of like really started stoking me into

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learning more about UFO so I started

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reading everything as there was and and

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trying to get to conferences but I was a

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kid and even that stuff is is with back

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then was ten more tinfoil Hattie than it

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was is today but

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now Paris flow Mon let's remind

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listeners who he is I think he's so

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around I haven't but friend on my

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facebook so yeah I mean him and I you

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know talk from time to time now Paris

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was once the producer of the long John

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Neville radio show back in the 50s and

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60s so he's been around for a long time

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and of course long John Neville was the

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pioneer paranormal talk show host before

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there was an art bell there was a long

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John and that's where I knew Paris woman

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slightly but he was heavily and deeply

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involved in UFO research and wrote

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extensively on the subject right yeah

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and it was good it was you know good

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research so you weren't yeah for that

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time what they had to what they had to

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you know to deal with the Czar's

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information but in the same same sense

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the information it was a little less

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filtered back then than it is now so

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they were kind of letting it all hang

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out you're I think a lot of the good

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information is probably from like early

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Chiho and stuff like that because it's

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just breaking these guys are in on it

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and guys like for monde and yeah the

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writers of that time who were serious

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about it were you know we're putting up

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some pretty interesting stuff I should

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point out that one of the books that

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Paris women wrote was one called the

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Kennedy conspiracy so he was very much

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involved also in the murder of John

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Kennedy oh yeah so it's rather I know

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that is that true yes I'm looking at

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right now well I did not know that he's

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kind of seems to have made his bones in

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the John F Kennedy stuff per se because

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he did you know excellent work in it so

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thanks for saying how people get

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involved in such a wide range of

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subjects that made his bones David

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that's a real New Jersey expression it's

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true and this book was earlier was

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written in 1969 I don't even know if you

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even get a copy anymore

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but so he's been involved in a lot of

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these things for a long time let's talk

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about your involvement

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now obviously you read important

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interesting books but did you ever

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actually see anything strange are you

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tons of it let's see it once I turned

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you know 18 once I did turn 20 say like

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nine

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in 85 that's when I actually started

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going out and going the hot spot there

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is that rat we were supposedly active so

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you know I've got stuff from down and

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Gulf Breeze down in the Gulf when that

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was hot I've got footage all over but

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since I'm here and you know it let's put

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it this way I have a four year old car

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that has 160 thousand miles on it it's I

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do so much running that I've kind of

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just based myself out of where I'm at

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here in Jersey and just kind of hitting

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the the western Pennsylvania New Jersey

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Shore's you know South Jersey has an

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activity New York has it has some

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activity from time to time so it's a

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it's not a that's nothing it's a busy

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area for air traffic so you really have

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to have light you know live FlightAware

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on so you know what's coming in and out

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of your area and you know but it's a

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it's tough in here as opposed to maybe

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going out west where you don't have you

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have better skies and clearer skies you

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don't have all that the lighting all of

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the plates of plastic everything out let

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me just mention I did discover this

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Paris women died at the age of 86 on

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November 10th 2013 now Paris was talking

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to me because I was telling him I was

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going out and going out interviewing

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Travis Walton and his crew out in snow

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plate and he was he said to me he goes I

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didn't think any reputable UFO

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researcher was still looking into that

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case and I go yeah it's still active you

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know still got stuff to be wrung out but

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it was kind of funny he made that

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statement because evidently he had

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dismissed the Walton case interesting

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maybe we should look at that I'm gonna

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get back to the question about what

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you've seen because you obviously you've

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covered a lot of things in the UFO field

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so why did Paris LeMond not believe in

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the Travis Walton case I have no idea I

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guess he got there too many hang-ups

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within the case so he wasn't buying it

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what about your opinion what do you

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think yeah I mean something happened I

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mean there's no no doubt in my mind

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something happened this is exactly what

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happened yeah it's a it's funny because

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they roll up on this thing and it and I

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think the forest is on fire so it's

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read so I'm wondering was it one of

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these great big red orbs that we see all

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the time

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floating around or you know there's a

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seems to be some sort of you know

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psychical thing were Travis didn't leap

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out of the truck you know they thought

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that maybe he was mind controlled and

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was heading towards the thing under mind

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control but if you talk to Kenny

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Peterson these days I mean they even had

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it on like alien eye witness or one of

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those television shows nowadays but I

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mean Kenny starts breaking down and

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crying and he's just like imagine being

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you know 18 years old and you're scared

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to go outside or scared to look at your

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window because you're going to see one

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of these things and he's breaking down

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and it still affects him to this day so

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you know that they experienced something

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I know I'm actually credited with

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getting Steve Pierce who was part of the

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crew and speak at my conference to speak

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in public for the first time so I've got

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to be you know good friends at Steve but

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and these guys they saw something

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something happened so and it affected

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all them and I think the more familiar

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you are with the case and the dynamics

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of the crew and Travis and everything

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you know they're in it's there's

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something there that's one of it it's

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probably one of the better cases that we

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have to deal with it's been that way

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we spent a pleasant couple of hours with

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Travis on a recent episode the power

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Castro a lot of interesting responses

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and typically pro and con of course they

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talk about the lie detector test and

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some questions about some of them so yes

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we certainly remain interested and we

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hope we'll have them back on again

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we're talking this week though with

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David Senate he is the head of the New

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Jersey UFO conference and we've got a

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mmm

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[Music]

621
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:22,810
returned with david stenick who's of

622
00:27:28,410 --> 00:27:25,210
course associated with the new jersey

623
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:28,420
UFO conference as opposed to an event

624
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:30,370
that i was once connected to called the

625
00:27:35,310 --> 00:27:32,410
national UFO conference ever hear of

626
00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:35,320
that david yeah so one of course that

627
00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:37,420
allen greenfield and rick hilbert and

628
00:27:44,550 --> 00:27:41,800
even the one and only Jim Mosley was

629
00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:44,560
connected with yep we all loved you Oh

630
00:27:51,450 --> 00:27:48,520
Jim was definitely a character okay

631
00:27:54,420 --> 00:27:51,460
Travis Walton you feel something strange

632
00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:54,430
happened to him and certainly the

633
00:27:57,540 --> 00:27:55,960
members of his crew seem to go along

634
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:57,550
with that but the question I would have

635
00:28:03,570 --> 00:28:01,360
here is do you think he actually had a

636
00:28:05,070 --> 00:28:03,580
ufo-related encounter or was it

637
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:05,080
something totally different

638
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:07,510
or was it mind control of some sort

639
00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:09,970
maybe a military experiment some might

640
00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:12,790
say yeah I hate to speculate on stuff I

641
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:15,160
I'm not sure of myself and I'm not even

642
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:16,480
sure they're they're sure of themselves

643
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:19,360
as far as exactly you know what the

644
00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:21,250
situation was but as far as I'm

645
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:22,660
personally concerned as far as their

646
00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:25,630
body languages and how they you know how

647
00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:28,470
they dealt with me something happened

648
00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:31,630
again just whatever this stuff is it

649
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,350
manifests in so many different ways that

650
00:28:39,330 --> 00:28:36,880
it can be term interpreted in so many

651
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:39,340
different ways it's tough to speculate

652
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:41,230
on what you know what it meant or what

653
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:43,810
it was but something happened as far as

654
00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:45,370
I'm concerned what it is is you know

655
00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:48,100
high strangeness to the Magnus Assembly

656
00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:50,830
okay so the big question David then is

657
00:28:57,690 --> 00:28:54,070
would you think there is any possibility

658
00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:57,700
of some kind of external involvement in

659
00:29:01,940 --> 00:28:59,410
Travis Walton that has nothing to do

660
00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:01,950
with UFOs or aliens or strange creatures

661
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:04,630
well Chris and I were discussing this

662
00:29:08,910 --> 00:29:06,970
type of stuff actually and we always

663
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,920
talk about like monkey wrench cases I

664
00:29:12,570 --> 00:29:10,480
mean and all the good ones seem to have

665
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:12,580
them there's most of it tracks pretty

666
00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:14,320
good but there's little spots in it that

667
00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:17,140
you know palpable red flags so stay with

668
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:19,870
Travis this case you have when after

669
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:21,370
you've spent playing around and decide

670
00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:23,650
on the chair there in the viewing room a

671
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:26,200
bubble suited guy comes out leads them

672
00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:26,770
out to

673
00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:28,840
these other people now the guy's suit is

674
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:32,350
you know basically 1969 you know Apollo

675
00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:35,200
basket knight costume fall intent

676
00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:37,480
purposes so you're wondering if these

677
00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:39,190
people say these beings are so advanced

678
00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:40,750
when they wearing bubble suits four and

679
00:29:43,980 --> 00:29:42,580
then the kicker is he hands them off to

680
00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:43,990
about three other people it look like

681
00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:46,030
the guy in the suit but none of them

682
00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:48,340
have have suits on so then you get

683
00:29:51,270 --> 00:29:49,660
people saying well maybe they can't get

684
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:51,280
micro build stuff and say well yeah well

685
00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:52,510
why is this guy wearing a space suit

686
00:29:56,730 --> 00:29:55,150
around inside of a spaceship and why is

687
00:29:59,010 --> 00:29:56,740
he handing it off the people don't seem

688
00:30:02,340 --> 00:29:59,020
to need one and then they put basically

689
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:02,350
a period piece anesthesia mask over top

690
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:05,770
of his face and again it's a period

691
00:30:10,170 --> 00:30:08,110
piece you'd figure these things are so

692
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:10,180
advanced that they would have now

693
00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:11,440
something that would knock us out that

694
00:30:14,490 --> 00:30:13,000
wasn't that so there's always like

695
00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:14,500
little things to kind of prick you in

696
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:16,870
cases and for me you know that's one of

697
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:19,360
those things in that case Chris since

698
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:20,620
you're brought into this discussion

699
00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:23,050
what's your take on that well you know I

700
00:30:27,810 --> 00:30:24,700
think it's a good point that Dave makes

701
00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:27,820
so you know we always have in almost

702
00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:30,390
every case there's there's some small

703
00:30:36,150 --> 00:30:34,030
detail maybe large glaring details that

704
00:30:39,030 --> 00:30:36,160
don't add up and that have this kind of

705
00:30:41,910 --> 00:30:39,040
well you know use the term monkey wrench

706
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:41,920
or a trickster ish element would be

707
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:44,050
another way of putting it and it's

708
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:48,370
almost as if the details of a particular

709
00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:52,750
case are supplied to somehow negate the

710
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:55,480
acceptability of the case to to others

711
00:30:59,870 --> 00:30:58,090
who then later on become aware of it and

712
00:31:03,080 --> 00:30:59,880
especially aware of the details so

713
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:03,090
there's always this fudge factor this so

714
00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:06,640
this weird kind of disconnect that that

715
00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:09,340
comes out in the details and that would

716
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:11,080
be a classic example of one why would

717
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,450
one of these beans have a suit on and

718
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:16,000
any other is not maybe the guy was

719
00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:18,570
coming in from doing maintenance work

720
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,700
something's on the outside who knows but

721
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:23,440
again another thing that should be

722
00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:26,470
pointed out is as you mentioned David

723
00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:28,780
these details tend to conform to the

724
00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:31,260
expectations of the witness and are

725
00:31:37,050 --> 00:31:33,940
often couched in the level of technology

726
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:37,060
of the time I think as we've been

727
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:39,910
progressing through this through all

728
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:40,690
these

729
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:43,330
history's and then starting possibly

730
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:45,880
back in biblical times moving forward a

731
00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:49,690
few time that we see a mirroring of the

732
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:52,630
technological progress and oftentimes

733
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:55,360
these details are couched in technology

734
00:31:59,790 --> 00:31:57,330
that maybe just slightly ahead of the

735
00:32:01,680 --> 00:31:59,800
current technology of the time so this

736
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:01,690
would be a real classic example of that

737
00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:05,410
and again whether that nullifies the

738
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:07,390
case or whether it supports the case

739
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:10,510
it's all in the eye to beholder you can

740
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:15,610
use it in to argue it either way I used

741
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:18,430
to use a bit person it was like you know

742
00:32:22,170 --> 00:32:20,350
in the thirteen hundreds it was the

743
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:22,180
Hidden Commonwealth and you had these

744
00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:24,130
you know these little beings or come and

745
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:26,200
snatch it from your place and don't eat

746
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:27,790
the buckwheat pancakes that they they

747
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:29,530
offered you and if you're able to escape

748
00:32:32,790 --> 00:32:31,450
you get back to your village and it was

749
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:32,800
you know there was a time differential

750
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:35,650
there and then 1600s you have all the

751
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:36,940
fairies and gnomes and they they

752
00:32:40,170 --> 00:32:38,530
basically do the same thing if the

753
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:40,180
buckwheat pancake seems to survive as

754
00:32:44,490 --> 00:32:42,130
well and then you get into the 60s and

755
00:32:45,870 --> 00:32:44,500
you get these spaceship guys and I

756
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:45,880
remember they have buckwheat pancakes

757
00:32:50,970 --> 00:32:47,560
too in at least one case

758
00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:50,980
hahaha Jo Symington yeah of Wisconsin

759
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:53,620
yeah and at the aliens and he saw them

760
00:32:58,260 --> 00:32:55,930
cooking this thing and he said what's

761
00:33:01,320 --> 00:32:58,270
that repointed to it and they gave him

762
00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:01,330
this rather inedible buckwheat pancake

763
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:03,670
the year they had it analyzed this last

764
00:33:07,650 --> 00:33:06,190
I remember I mean other than the common

765
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:07,660
thread being buckwheat pancakes it

766
00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:10,480
whatever it is is kind of presenting

767
00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:12,400
itself to that generation and a

768
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:14,260
binocular of that generation can deal

769
00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:16,570
with and maybe I should move the sixteen

770
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:17,860
hundreds up actually up to the you know

771
00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:19,450
seventeen eighteen hundreds but still

772
00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:21,670
it's presenting itself to each

773
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:23,680
generation I guess maybe ours was just

774
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:26,170
like the space generation and boom the

775
00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:29,050
only thing that kind of throws a monkey

776
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:31,300
wrench into that is that we do see

777
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:33,970
through you know history and and rock

778
00:33:36,270 --> 00:33:35,290
art and stuff like that you know these

779
00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:36,280
things have been look like flying

780
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:39,400
saucers so but we are interpreting

781
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:41,710
whatever it is in accordance with our

782
00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:44,890
culture yeah I mean there's some of us

783
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:46,500
is waiting to see what the next

784
00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:48,330
manifestation of its going to be here

785
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:51,460
well I mean it has modified I mean what

786
00:33:57,580 --> 00:33:54,530
we see there is a slightly advanced

787
00:34:01,030 --> 00:33:57,590
in technology as our own technological

788
00:34:03,070 --> 00:34:01,040
achievements become greater so I guess

789
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:03,080
they're not showing star maps anymore ET

790
00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:06,110
no I know it's matter-of-factly I was

791
00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:07,790
talking to Ted Phillips was having lunch

792
00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:11,630
with him one day and I was saying Ted

793
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:14,630
knows I haven't used any like the trace

794
00:34:17,830 --> 00:34:16,370
evidence stuff on my case for a long

795
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,840
time I was I got my vials and rubber

796
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:19,520
gloves the other night and goes you're

797
00:34:22,450 --> 00:34:20,570
one of the food people who would know

798
00:34:25,780 --> 00:34:22,460
this he goes when to stop I said about

799
00:34:28,810 --> 00:34:25,790
mm he goes exactly because we stopped

800
00:34:30,850 --> 00:34:28,820
getting flying saucers and those type of

801
00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:30,860
things per se and we get these orbs and

802
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:33,830
Ted has it you know an active area over

803
00:34:37,930 --> 00:34:36,290
in Missouri where he's at and he's

804
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:37,940
filming the same stuff were filming and

805
00:34:42,430 --> 00:34:40,159
everybody else has been filming and I

806
00:34:44,830 --> 00:34:42,440
was talking to Chris prior to prior to

807
00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:44,840
this and I was saying that my whole

808
00:34:49,090 --> 00:34:46,550
switch I went into kind of ancient

809
00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:49,100
Biblical documents because some were

810
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:52,820
kind of like 1996 everybody I knew

811
00:34:57,820 --> 00:34:55,760
nobody I knew had taken a picture or had

812
00:34:59,470 --> 00:34:57,830
video of flying saucers we audit or

813
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,480
threw out all these balls flying around

814
00:35:04,810 --> 00:35:01,520
all over the place in various sizes and

815
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:04,820
brightnesses and colors but nobody had

816
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:05,930
flying saucers so I'm just like

817
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,970
something the national conventions were

818
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:09,440
basically talk of playing saucers but

819
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,690
nobody's seen any of this stuff so I

820
00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:13,040
started going in two different

821
00:35:19,330 --> 00:35:18,140
directions and you know you I was

822
00:35:19,930 --> 00:35:19,340
telling Chris that there's a guy named

823
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:19,940
chuck Missler

824
00:35:24,970 --> 00:35:22,250
and I was always kind of a prophecy buff

825
00:35:26,830 --> 00:35:24,980
but he does this lecture it's a two-hour

826
00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:26,840
lecture but it's called return of the

827
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:29,630
Nephilim and the first hours UFO history

828
00:35:34,030 --> 00:35:32,450
and Chuck has like a killer background

829
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:34,040
he was in a defense industry for 40

830
00:35:37,390 --> 00:35:35,410
years designed most of our you know

831
00:35:39,610 --> 00:35:37,400
ballistic systems and missile systems

832
00:35:43,060 --> 00:35:39,620
and his company built the electronics

833
00:35:45,850 --> 00:35:43,070
for b-2 stealth bomber but he gives you

834
00:35:47,290 --> 00:35:45,860
know the UFO history as we know it

835
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:47,300
pretty much and does it does a decent

836
00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:49,850
job and then the second half of its kind

837
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:51,350
of like the biblical narrative you know

838
00:35:56,650 --> 00:35:53,930
from and mostly from a scientific point

839
00:35:58,780 --> 00:35:56,660
of view but after I got done Cena I'm

840
00:36:00,940 --> 00:35:58,790
just like he's got it yeah it was just

841
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,950
the bell rang so I'm just like I'm going

842
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:03,200
in the wrong direction here then you

843
00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:05,690
start reading you know boy and Kyo and

844
00:36:09,759 --> 00:36:08,390
Hynek and those guys are basically on

845
00:36:11,769 --> 00:36:09,769
in the same thing this guy is saying

846
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:11,779
they're academics so they can't like

847
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,210
really you know full-throttle it but

848
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:15,920
even those guys were saying it's demonic

849
00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:18,890
and you got and you can see within the

850
00:36:23,769 --> 00:36:20,990
field now you're there's a shift out of

851
00:36:24,609 --> 00:36:23,779
the alien stuff to the more spiritually

852
00:36:28,029 --> 00:36:24,619
type stuff

853
00:36:31,569 --> 00:36:28,039
so it's kind of interesting it's an

854
00:36:33,069 --> 00:36:31,579
interesting move but so that's kind of

855
00:36:35,470 --> 00:36:33,079
how I come at it now I come at it from

856
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:35,480
it from a different world needed to say

857
00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:38,690
David Stennett is with us on this week's

858
00:36:48,309 --> 00:36:41,000
episode a lot more to come with gene and

859
00:36:51,029 --> 00:36:48,319
Chris you're in Lipari cast a little

860
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ride a little laugh but always

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independent minded the genesis

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the rocket has been well-received by

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critics and readers alike it's a thrill

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a minute story you'll never forget a

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former US military intelligence officer

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is haunted by intense dreams about a

868
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beautiful woman pleading for his help

869
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after a terrible battle in outer space

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with a woman who's faraway planet is

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intent on destroying the earth and now

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solicitation for legal services yeah do

912
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you want to see me sir well I did and

913
00:39:05,890 --> 00:39:04,340
now that I do a month oh sure sir

914
00:39:07,930 --> 00:39:05,900
Johnson I got a mission for you I could

915
00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:07,940
change your life oh good sir involves

916
00:39:10,810 --> 00:39:09,470
traveling halfway around the world well

917
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:10,820
add so much as half a clue where you're

918
00:39:14,350 --> 00:39:11,810
going to what you're gonna do when you

919
00:39:15,790 --> 00:39:14,360
get there situation normal sir well I'll

920
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:15,800
be leading this mission Johnson so I'll

921
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:17,330
be telling you what to do yes sir that's

922
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:19,010
right Johnson and I say first things

923
00:39:23,890 --> 00:39:19,490
first

924
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food always remember that Johnson food

925
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is a big deal

926
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Sara my brother Larkin gets a really

927
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good deal on some surplus MREs Johnson

928
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if you've got half a brain in that empty

929
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head of yours you'll call the freeze dry

930
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guy like I did that food is better for

931
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you it rehydrates faster and it's good

932
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Johnson and it peeps for up to thirty

933
00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:41,300
years we be gone that long sir I hope

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not now get your supplies organized and

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971
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972
00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:35,380
coming here helping us rather than

973
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:37,780
harming us or you know doing hybrid

974
00:41:43,470 --> 00:41:40,089
races and such David spinet is with us

975
00:41:47,099 --> 00:41:43,480
he is a veteran UFO researcher and he's

976
00:41:49,319 --> 00:41:47,109
currently running the New Jersey UFO

977
00:41:51,930 --> 00:41:49,329
conference okay tell us a little bit

978
00:41:54,450 --> 00:41:51,940
more about the conference and how it has

979
00:41:55,859 --> 00:41:54,460
changed if it has changed since you took

980
00:42:00,180 --> 00:41:55,869
over the management of it

981
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:00,190
I basically overhauled the conference I

982
00:42:08,490 --> 00:42:03,730
came into the New Jersey Congress I

983
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:08,500
guess in about 2008 and I was just kind

984
00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:09,940
of hanging around on the fringes kind of

985
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:11,260
eyeball and stuff which is kind of what

986
00:42:16,049 --> 00:42:14,290
I do but I started going to their

987
00:42:18,089 --> 00:42:16,059
monthly meetings because there's some

988
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:18,099
you know there are some you know

989
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:20,170
critical thinkers there and one of them

990
00:42:23,849 --> 00:42:21,910
is a friend of mine and Chris knows and

991
00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:23,859
there's George Hanson and George has

992
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:27,460
been you know crazy helpful and getting

993
00:42:30,809 --> 00:42:28,930
you through some of this sticker bushes

994
00:42:33,569 --> 00:42:30,819
that you end up going when you go this

995
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:33,579
route and start looking at it from a

996
00:42:38,010 --> 00:42:37,000
different angle but I started going to

997
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:38,020
the monthly meeting so start doing

998
00:42:41,730 --> 00:42:39,730
presentations and I guess everybody was

999
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,740
like hey this guy actually does to work

1000
00:42:44,970 --> 00:42:43,200
and knows what he's talking about and

1001
00:42:48,890 --> 00:42:44,980
they wanted to start a whole new

1002
00:42:51,059 --> 00:42:48,900
conference but at market Ilia dr. UFO it

1003
00:42:52,349 --> 00:42:51,069
has been running the conference here and

1004
00:42:53,849 --> 00:42:52,359
he's brought a lot of people together

1005
00:42:55,859 --> 00:42:53,859
and pretty much everybody in the field

1006
00:42:59,069 --> 00:42:55,869
has you know gone through his doors one

1007
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,079
way or another so basically I decided to

1008
00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:01,599
revamp the conference so it's more

1009
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,880
focused on boots on the ground

1010
00:43:07,859 --> 00:43:05,680
researchers guys are actually out there

1011
00:43:12,359 --> 00:43:07,869
doing doing the work and you know not

1012
00:43:13,950 --> 00:43:12,369
writing for pieces by March so that's

1013
00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:13,960
why that's what I've been doing pretty

1014
00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:17,950
much and and I have dr. UFO you know

1015
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:21,309
intro everybody pretty much but the

1016
00:43:26,190 --> 00:43:22,930
conference has been very successful and

1017
00:43:27,329 --> 00:43:26,200
self-sustaining and I've been enjoying

1018
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:27,339
it because I get to talk to all my

1019
00:43:33,690 --> 00:43:29,890
favorites so and we actually could sit

1020
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:33,700
down and talk to people and we had Chris

1021
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:35,650
for the last conference so we didn't get

1022
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:36,730
as much talking as we

1023
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:38,770
we knew we were everybody stood by time

1024
00:43:44,490 --> 00:43:41,320
done because that way now in all this

1025
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:44,500
the people who have believed that UFOs

1026
00:43:50,339 --> 00:43:47,410
are reflective of ET how do they react

1027
00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:50,349
to your point of view it's been kind of

1028
00:43:56,450 --> 00:43:53,260
odd actually and it's funny because it's

1029
00:44:01,620 --> 00:43:56,460
one thing to be a you know old school

1030
00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:01,630
science-based UFO guy you get it you

1031
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,400
still get tinfoil hat it but if you if

1032
00:44:06,569 --> 00:44:04,960
you come at it from a biblical expected

1033
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:06,579
perspective then you get you get wha for

1034
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:09,490
quite a bit the only good part about it

1035
00:44:15,569 --> 00:44:12,910
is I've done the work and I was talking

1036
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:15,579
to somebody that we all know and and I

1037
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:17,290
was just like you know after doing all

1038
00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:18,790
you know digging into this as much as I

1039
00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:20,470
have if I'm just like how much sure if I

1040
00:44:23,339 --> 00:44:21,460
can get away with that

1041
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:23,349
believing what it's saying I understand

1042
00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:25,210
it now and they kind of just smirked and

1043
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:26,920
I'm like what they're like because you

1044
00:44:31,319 --> 00:44:29,530
did the work you know and that's what it

1045
00:44:33,450 --> 00:44:31,329
all comes down to you can you can either

1046
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:33,460
do the work or not I mean you go you

1047
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:34,990
have a lot of people out there clacking

1048
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:37,450
way to computer but you know UFO work

1049
00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:39,130
any kind of research work Chris noses

1050
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:42,040
better than everybody here it's long and

1051
00:44:45,150 --> 00:44:44,170
it's arduous and as tedious to choose up

1052
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:45,160
a lot of your time and your

1053
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,680
relationships I mean there's yeah you

1054
00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:49,119
have to start yet to find your balance

1055
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:51,430
because these types of fields will you

1056
00:44:57,140 --> 00:44:53,170
know to up your life pretty good if you

1057
00:45:01,200 --> 00:44:57,150
don't Tang is at an understatement oh oh

1058
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:01,210
my goodness yeah that's too it did in

1059
00:45:06,380 --> 00:45:04,240
you know a lot of this stuff really

1060
00:45:10,650 --> 00:45:06,390
comes down to looking people in the eye

1061
00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:10,660
taking copious notes doing follow-up

1062
00:45:15,450 --> 00:45:13,660
work in a region where of sighting

1063
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:15,460
events occurred or wave of events has

1064
00:45:20,819 --> 00:45:18,010
occurred in and beating the bushes and

1065
00:45:23,609 --> 00:45:20,829
and kind of creating your own leads

1066
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:23,619
basically and this stuff normally

1067
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:26,319
doesn't come to you unless you're you're

1068
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:28,890
you know standard criterion MUFON member

1069
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:31,150
obviously those folks so those field

1070
00:45:36,089 --> 00:45:33,430
investigators will have a certain amount

1071
00:45:38,579 --> 00:45:36,099
of cases come their way but I think that

1072
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:38,589
particular model has its limitations and

1073
00:45:42,210 --> 00:45:40,150
you really need to be creative and

1074
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:42,220
you're thinking and in your your your

1075
00:45:48,089 --> 00:45:44,800
protocols how you go about investigating

1076
00:45:49,690 --> 00:45:48,099
cases how you get Supplemental in

1077
00:45:51,460 --> 00:45:49,700
corroborating witnesses

1078
00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:51,470
for instance I think is very important

1079
00:45:58,030 --> 00:45:55,640
not enough work I think is being done by

1080
00:46:01,450 --> 00:45:58,040
people trying to obtain a collaboration

1081
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:01,460
of science for instance and there's no

1082
00:46:05,950 --> 00:46:03,530
substitute as David said of actually

1083
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:05,960
getting out there and in doing the work

1084
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:08,570
that's really important in and also

1085
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:10,490
creating networks in areas that seem to

1086
00:46:17,290 --> 00:46:13,610
have abundance of events having people

1087
00:46:21,730 --> 00:46:17,300
you know actively outside looking have

1088
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:21,740
people asking around family members of

1089
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:23,660
you know let's say were fellow workers

1090
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:26,210
or people in their community you know

1091
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:28,490
keeping your pulse finger on the pulse

1092
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:31,730
of a particular region and that's one

1093
00:46:35,050 --> 00:46:33,110
good thing about where you are Dave you

1094
00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:35,060
you're you're sitting right in a perfect

1095
00:46:39,340 --> 00:46:37,070
spot that's where three kind of regions

1096
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:39,350
come together including that really

1097
00:46:42,850 --> 00:46:41,210
important region of western pennsylvania

1098
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:42,860
which i think is the hottest spot pretty

1099
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:46,190
much on the east coast and where have

1100
00:46:52,510 --> 00:46:49,910
you found your best cases emerging from

1101
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:52,520
his a pennsylvania or is the Darren's in

1102
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:55,130
southern Jersey or now the hottest spots

1103
00:47:00,070 --> 00:46:57,290
been out and out in western Pennsylvania

1104
00:47:02,980 --> 00:47:00,080
Murrysville near where there's a girl

1105
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:02,990
out there named Alison Cruz and and she

1106
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:05,570
has a seeing UFOs PA on YouTube but I

1107
00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:08,290
mean anybody who's in the UFO you know

1108
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,300
into the videos HD houses stuff she's

1109
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:13,280
got a ton of it out better but I think

1110
00:47:16,450 --> 00:47:14,480
it was like 2008

1111
00:47:18,010 --> 00:47:16,460
I'm I'm in Washington crossings I'm

1112
00:47:20,860 --> 00:47:18,020
ready to head up to my house I have a

1113
00:47:22,990 --> 00:47:20,870
house to stray outside State College and

1114
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:23,000
it's a 3 hour run there's 7 o'clock in

1115
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,130
the morning and it was the new Veterans

1116
00:47:30,370 --> 00:47:27,680
Cemetery in Washington crosses they just

1117
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:30,380
put it in standing outside at 7 o'clock

1118
00:47:37,210 --> 00:47:34,910
Bluebird morning and 2 huge orange craft

1119
00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:37,220
you know daylight and it was bizarre is

1120
00:47:40,090 --> 00:47:38,900
what it was I bet I've seen daylight

1121
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:40,100
stuff but I had never seen daylight

1122
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:41,330
stuff like that before and I was just

1123
00:47:45,130 --> 00:47:43,010
like holy mackerel like I don't have my

1124
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:45,140
camera so I tell my buddy who's coming

1125
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:46,640
out the door he goes gasps got to tell

1126
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:48,770
you there's three balls hanging over I

1127
00:47:53,950 --> 00:47:51,110
95 my boss even mentioned to me I said

1128
00:47:56,110 --> 00:47:53,960
buddy tell because alright but so I

1129
00:47:58,660 --> 00:47:56,120
started tracking these you know across

1130
00:48:02,230 --> 00:47:58,670
Pennsylvania and came across what seemed

1131
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:02,240
to be them and bumped in Alison Cruz and

1132
00:48:06,910 --> 00:48:03,200
by that

1133
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:06,920
game the national you know UFO groups

1134
00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:08,930
were just beating her brains out but

1135
00:48:11,319 --> 00:48:10,790
nobody was going there to see if it was

1136
00:48:16,089 --> 00:48:11,329
true

1137
00:48:17,470 --> 00:48:16,099
so from Alison's my place in outside

1138
00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:17,480
State College Allison's place is like

1139
00:48:21,339 --> 00:48:19,190
two hours at the five hour run for me to

1140
00:48:23,890 --> 00:48:21,349
go out there so I started going out

1141
00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:23,900
there and she had all kinds of crazy

1142
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:26,180
action and she had cops backing it up in

1143
00:48:30,550 --> 00:48:28,400
cops in her film then she was getting

1144
00:48:32,109 --> 00:48:30,560
you know radar reports from the local

1145
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:32,119
radars for those time of days and

1146
00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:34,310
running live FlightAware I mean she was

1147
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:37,369
doing all her due diligence and and I

1148
00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:40,160
had to go out there and basically you

1149
00:48:44,050 --> 00:48:42,500
know scatter how clean a clean house a

1150
00:48:45,609 --> 00:48:44,060
bit saying hey this is for real

1151
00:48:46,839 --> 00:48:45,619
you know I've got a problem with what

1152
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:46,849
you're saying I got a problem with what

1153
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:49,310
you're saying and kind of going after

1154
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:52,970
people because nobody has been up there

1155
00:48:57,069 --> 00:48:55,070
and done an investigation the one person

1156
00:48:58,599 --> 00:48:57,079
it did never showed up when he was

1157
00:49:00,640 --> 00:48:58,609
supposed to with any equipment or

1158
00:49:01,930 --> 00:49:00,650
anything like that and it was just it

1159
00:49:05,260 --> 00:49:01,940
was crazy so it actually took me a

1160
00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:05,270
little while to have Alice and recognize

1161
00:49:10,420 --> 00:49:08,150
who I was and you know earn her trust

1162
00:49:13,210 --> 00:49:10,430
but once you know I've been up there you

1163
00:49:16,540 --> 00:49:13,220
know a few times with all different

1164
00:49:19,180 --> 00:49:16,550
kinds of new UFO field you know Thor's

1165
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:19,190
and so we're all out there so we're we

1166
00:49:24,099 --> 00:49:21,650
were triangulating we've got good we've

1167
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:24,109
got good night vision black and green

1168
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:26,930
and and we're all catching the same

1169
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:28,430
stuff at the same time I mean and the

1170
00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:30,290
thing is is that the cool thing is

1171
00:49:34,359 --> 00:49:32,270
Allison arranged it pretty much with

1172
00:49:37,059 --> 00:49:34,369
everybody through the valley and when it

1173
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:37,069
starts popping the daisy chain kicks in

1174
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:38,240
and they'll start calling people and

1175
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:39,710
people go out and get out there with

1176
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,839
their cameras so there's actually a few

1177
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:43,760
people out in that area who film you

1178
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:46,130
know still pretty regularly but as

1179
00:49:51,309 --> 00:49:48,530
things go they seem to be sick like you

1180
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:51,319
know they get like crazy high and then

1181
00:49:55,930 --> 00:49:53,569
it'll kind of cool off for a little bit

1182
00:49:57,609 --> 00:49:55,940
and a couple years later or ramp back up

1183
00:50:00,490 --> 00:49:57,619
so we're kind of hitting a little bit of

1184
00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:00,500
a quiet phase but that one of the one

1185
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:03,260
person up there yesterday got decent

1186
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:06,290
daytime one you know dusk it was still

1187
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:08,089
light out it was still wobbling across

1188
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:10,730
the sky numbers immunes good footage the

1189
00:50:15,490 --> 00:50:13,250
point being here is that whatever you

1190
00:50:16,569 --> 00:50:15,500
think is causing UFOs events is still

1191
00:50:18,099 --> 00:50:16,579
occurring

1192
00:50:20,650 --> 00:50:18,109
in different parts of the country I

1193
00:50:22,959 --> 00:50:20,660
think one thing regular listeners will

1194
00:50:26,169 --> 00:50:22,969
realize is that there was a wave of UFO

1195
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:26,179
sightings UFO flap in the past year or

1196
00:50:31,779 --> 00:50:29,089
two in Canada as recorded by Kris

1197
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:31,789
Witkowski in addition if you're a member

1198
00:50:36,279 --> 00:50:34,729
of the mutual UFO network or MUFON you'd

1199
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:36,289
find out that there were quite a number

1200
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:38,569
of UFO cases in the United States

1201
00:50:45,819 --> 00:50:42,319
particularly in 2013 and also in large

1202
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:45,829
part in 2014 so the UFOs have clearly

1203
00:50:50,589 --> 00:50:48,890
not gone away although as you'll notice

1204
00:50:53,229 --> 00:50:50,599
in this episode and other discussions

1205
00:50:56,380 --> 00:50:53,239
we've had in the power cast they tend to

1206
00:50:59,709 --> 00:50:56,390
be taking a somewhat different posture

1207
00:51:01,989 --> 00:50:59,719
than they did before UFOs are modifying

1208
00:51:04,749 --> 00:51:01,999
themselves or we're modifying our

1209
00:51:07,419 --> 00:51:04,759
perceptions of them but these sightings

1210
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:07,429
seem to take on different aspects and

1211
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:09,049
the sightings of years ago as you

1212
00:51:14,410 --> 00:51:12,049
mentioned this trace evidence cases

1213
00:51:16,509 --> 00:51:14,420
where trace evidence is left well they

1214
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:16,519
seem to have left for the last ten or

1215
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:19,130
fourteen years so we can continue to

1216
00:51:23,949 --> 00:51:21,890
discuss the changes in the UFO

1217
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:23,959
phenomenon and what the impact might

1218
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:26,569
being with David's Senate you have gene

1219
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:28,609
and you have Chris because you're in the

1220
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:38,250
[Music]

1221
00:51:43,330 --> 00:51:40,480
independently leading the way for the

1222
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:43,340
nation compelling talk for every

1223
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:44,930
political persuasion

1224
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,130
we are cheap see and mom I can't do a

1225
00:51:54,070 --> 00:51:51,440
math homework I just don't get it

1226
00:51:55,839 --> 00:51:54,080
I hate math I've always tried to be a

1227
00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:55,849
good mother but when it came to Jamie's

1228
00:52:00,760 --> 00:51:58,250
math I was at a loss and a friend told

1229
00:52:02,830 --> 00:52:00,770
me about math made easy DVDs concepts

1230
00:52:04,810 --> 00:52:02,840
are simplified in an easy way to follow

1231
00:52:06,430 --> 00:52:04,820
and review and students can learn at

1232
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:06,440
their own pace in the convenience of

1233
00:52:22,990 --> 00:52:08,960
home listen in the frustration call math

1234
00:52:27,370 --> 00:52:25,599
they've been available since 1986 yet

1235
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:27,380
the financial industry won't recognize

1236
00:52:31,210 --> 00:52:28,910
the value of gold for your retirement

1237
00:52:33,310 --> 00:52:31,220
gold has outperformed paper investments

1238
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:33,320
yet no word about IRAs if you would like

1239
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:35,440
to have gold for your retirement call

1240
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:38,750
866 to 237 don't get left behind by

1241
00:52:49,710 --> 00:52:41,050
rising inflation and low returns call

1242
00:52:49,720 --> 00:53:15,630
[Music]

1243
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:27,700
1-866-462-1922 can't afford to rent with

1244
00:53:30,730 --> 00:53:28,490
these prices

1245
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:30,740
imagine a 70 by 100 foot church building

1246
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:32,930
for under 69 thousand dollars with the

1247
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,910
economy improving and interest rates

1248
00:53:41,230 --> 00:53:37,040
still at historic lows you can't afford

1249
00:53:45,250 --> 00:53:41,240
to wait so call 866 91 steel lock in

1250
00:53:49,150 --> 00:53:45,260
your price now call 866 91 steel that's

1251
00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:49,160
eight six six nine one seven 83 35

1252
00:54:03,790 --> 00:53:59,000
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1253
00:54:11,570 --> 00:54:03,800
standard of paranormal radio now here's

1254
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:11,580
Jean Steinberg David's tenet is joining

1255
00:54:16,730 --> 00:54:14,220
us on the podcast this week so we were

1256
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:16,740
focusing on this before as our society

1257
00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:19,770
changes the UFOs change with it are the

1258
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:22,500
UFOs perhaps taking us in new directions

1259
00:54:27,290 --> 00:54:24,690
that we're not really quite aware of yet

1260
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:27,300
I can probably figure out why they're

1261
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,170
not landing

1262
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:30,240
I think they've landed enough times and

1263
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:32,220
collected enough rocks and flour samples

1264
00:54:39,650 --> 00:54:35,520
to satisfy their curiosity and they

1265
00:54:41,210 --> 00:54:39,660
don't need to do that anymore I always

1266
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:41,220
wondered about that you know how many

1267
00:54:45,740 --> 00:54:43,500
times how many samples though the UFO

1268
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:45,750
knots have to take they only need one or

1269
00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:46,290
two

1270
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:48,750
wait that's funny and like I'll build

1271
00:54:54,620 --> 00:54:52,710
old days I guess Gino's 40s and 50s even

1272
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,630
60s people always be stumbling up to

1273
00:54:57,410 --> 00:54:56,160
these guys and they always be wrenching

1274
00:54:58,940 --> 00:54:57,420
on the Flying Saucer you know they're

1275
00:55:00,830 --> 00:54:58,950
okay so somebody's I need to work on a

1276
00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:00,840
thing and it's not so you get a little

1277
00:55:04,940 --> 00:55:03,300
bit later in life I guess you go but how

1278
00:55:07,250 --> 00:55:04,950
they able traverse the entire universe

1279
00:55:08,570 --> 00:55:07,260
or known space and all the deserts or

1280
00:55:10,070 --> 00:55:08,580
something definitely land here they have

1281
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,080
this artwork on these damn things and

1282
00:55:13,550 --> 00:55:12,000
what's the deal again you know it's

1283
00:55:14,780 --> 00:55:13,560
another one of the trickster parts of it

1284
00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:14,790
you get a lot of those accounts were

1285
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:17,670
people roll up on a UFO or guy working

1286
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:19,650
on a flying saucer and one guys talking

1287
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:20,880
to any other guys working on the fine

1288
00:55:23,810 --> 00:55:21,960
sausage so you like it

1289
00:55:25,310 --> 00:55:23,820
these guys are that advanced Imus like

1290
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:25,320
what's going on here yeah excuse me

1291
00:55:30,620 --> 00:55:27,330
earthling do you have a half inch socket

1292
00:55:33,140 --> 00:55:30,630
said you know nowadays it's a Torx

1293
00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:33,150
wrench or a Torx screwdriver and there

1294
00:55:38,210 --> 00:55:34,800
you had any of that I'm thinking of

1295
00:55:41,570 --> 00:55:38,220
taking apart my iMac my Apple iMac to

1296
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,580
update it of course use Torx screws know

1297
00:55:45,610 --> 00:55:43,920
why they make these these scoop marks

1298
00:55:48,290 --> 00:55:45,620
and they take out you know fairly

1299
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,300
sizable chunks of skin when all they

1300
00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:49,920
could well they didn't really need to do

1301
00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:52,320
is just do a well swab inside them out

1302
00:55:56,270 --> 00:55:54,780
to get some genetic material this is

1303
00:55:58,220 --> 00:55:56,280
where I kind of get on people that

1304
00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:58,230
because it or not dinner either they're

1305
00:56:00,770 --> 00:55:59,490
not being taught how to think or they're

1306
00:56:02,330 --> 00:56:00,780
not being taught to think critical or

1307
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:02,340
maybe you have to be taught how to think

1308
00:56:05,289 --> 00:56:03,410
like that I'm not

1309
00:56:06,730 --> 00:56:05,299
sure great I think there's one good

1310
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:06,740
actually good thing about the younger

1311
00:56:09,730 --> 00:56:08,089
generation is that they're tech-savvy

1312
00:56:11,710 --> 00:56:09,740
you know in there and they're pretty

1313
00:56:13,210 --> 00:56:11,720
smart group but you still find a lot of

1314
00:56:15,099 --> 00:56:13,220
them buying into it but a lot of them

1315
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:15,109
are a little more they are critically

1316
00:56:17,980 --> 00:56:16,130
thinking I think maybe some of these

1317
00:56:20,529 --> 00:56:17,990
games have them thinking a little more

1318
00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:20,539
critically than in our generation does

1319
00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:21,470
because they could pick some of this

1320
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:23,990
stuff off there's a new video out it's

1321
00:56:27,549 --> 00:56:25,250
got the meteor over Southern California

1322
00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:27,559
and the UFO gets ejected out of it now

1323
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:29,630
and start zipping around I'm just like

1324
00:56:33,999 --> 00:56:32,450
since I saw it I go the orbs I did I'm

1325
00:56:36,099 --> 00:56:34,009
just like that's that's

1326
00:56:37,690 --> 00:56:36,109
and I'm just getting hammered and people

1327
00:56:39,549 --> 00:56:37,700
I don't know just that's the real things

1328
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:39,559
so you know the hoax killer came out

1329
00:56:42,339 --> 00:56:40,640
today they're like the whole thing was

1330
00:56:44,890 --> 00:56:42,349
CGI it was like not not even the meteor

1331
00:56:46,299 --> 00:56:44,900
was like no for real yeah really I mean

1332
00:56:47,890 --> 00:56:46,309
when it comes to anything in the

1333
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:47,900
paranormal field and person knows is

1334
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,480
true that you really have to you know go

1335
00:56:55,859 --> 00:56:51,920
in and pick it apart cause if you don't

1336
00:56:58,690 --> 00:56:55,869
yes especially now with CGI so

1337
00:57:01,210 --> 00:56:58,700
accessible and affordable you know your

1338
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:01,220
pimply faced the 13 year old can

1339
00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:03,650
actually sit there and you know spend

1340
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:04,670
some time would come up with a

1341
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:07,130
convincing to the untrained eye a fairly

1342
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:10,490
convincing piece of footage and of

1343
00:57:15,549 --> 00:57:12,799
course it's you know easy to spread that

1344
00:57:18,099 --> 00:57:15,559
around around the world on the net and

1345
00:57:19,809 --> 00:57:18,109
you just start a ball rolling down the

1346
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:19,819
hill snow ball and it did just gather

1347
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:23,359
speed and and you have sights like the

1348
00:57:30,130 --> 00:57:25,160
moon sight of the twins that shall not

1349
00:57:31,390 --> 00:57:30,140
be named I start again I start itching

1350
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:31,400
in places I don't know where to scratch

1351
00:57:36,339 --> 00:57:33,410
I'm just wondering though we were

1352
00:57:39,849 --> 00:57:36,349
talking before about how the technology

1353
00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:39,859
and some cultural elements tend to be

1354
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:43,910
precursor to you know slightly couched

1355
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:45,650
ahead of the time I'm wondering in that

1356
00:57:49,180 --> 00:57:47,599
villa Boas case if that blond-haired

1357
00:57:51,309 --> 00:57:49,190
alien that came in and did the dude

1358
00:57:54,569 --> 00:57:51,319
actually kind of stuck a tongue out and

1359
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:54,579
was twerking like Miley Cyrus before she

1360
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:56,690
started grunting like an animal and

1361
00:58:03,339 --> 00:57:59,839
turning a little bows off anyway I

1362
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:03,349
digress when a there again you get you

1363
00:58:07,150 --> 00:58:04,730
know you get these blondes you know you

1364
00:58:09,339 --> 00:58:07,160
get more and we have to supposedly we

1365
00:58:10,660 --> 00:58:09,349
have 52 we have different species coming

1366
00:58:12,130 --> 00:58:10,670
to the planet you know you think of all

1367
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:12,140
the people with all those races coming

1368
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,450
in off the planet we sense the commotion

1369
00:58:18,670 --> 00:58:16,640
or sense of traffic but it's

1370
00:58:20,620 --> 00:58:18,680
Azari I hope the whole field is Arabic

1371
00:58:23,140 --> 00:58:20,630
you really wait a minute there's 52

1372
00:58:24,730 --> 00:58:23,150
different species of aliens coming you

1373
00:58:27,819 --> 00:58:24,740
know who came up with that number I

1374
00:58:30,910 --> 00:58:27,829
think that I think cliffs that came up

1375
00:58:33,250 --> 00:58:30,920
with Cliff Stone yeah I think he's right

1376
00:58:35,380 --> 00:58:33,260
yeah 52 it's kind of like he was looking

1377
00:58:38,019 --> 00:58:35,390
at the commercial from Heinz and they

1378
00:58:41,950 --> 00:58:38,029
said 57 varieties and he said no 52

1379
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:41,960
because five of them are extinct I guess

1380
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:45,170
I think that's why the I guess I like to

1381
00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:47,230
call the kind of guides in a note is

1382
00:58:50,799 --> 00:58:49,430
Hansen had it with the trickster and

1383
00:58:54,759 --> 00:58:50,809
Chris picked up on the tricks they're

1384
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:54,769
nervous there's something that travels

1385
00:59:00,160 --> 00:58:56,690
beneath all this stuff and it's

1386
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:00,170
happening but it just it seems to come

1387
00:59:05,230 --> 00:59:02,450
up and just kind of go a little tweak in

1388
00:59:07,779 --> 00:59:05,240
it just to just to throw you off and

1389
00:59:09,370 --> 00:59:07,789
it's design realized it's designed to do

1390
00:59:12,130 --> 00:59:09,380
that and it pops itself up and up where

1391
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:12,140
you start being able to track it and

1392
00:59:17,769 --> 00:59:14,450
Chris even had in his one in his

1393
00:59:19,329 --> 00:59:17,779
presentation that he does and/or that

1394
00:59:21,130 --> 00:59:19,339
sheep you know the brains are missing

1395
00:59:24,009 --> 00:59:21,140
but skulls intact and their backbones

1396
00:59:26,380 --> 00:59:24,019
been rude type stuff but it's real

1397
00:59:28,359 --> 00:59:26,390
precision stuff and compared to the all

1398
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:28,369
the other stuff you like this is my Road

1399
00:59:34,539 --> 00:59:32,450
strange so you get these things and you

1400
00:59:36,099 --> 00:59:34,549
can gauge you know you can gauge what

1401
00:59:38,109 --> 00:59:36,109
kind of case you got by you know cut

1402
00:59:40,269 --> 00:59:38,119
what kind of these things actually can

1403
00:59:41,769 --> 00:59:40,279
actually pop up within the case but I

1404
00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:41,779
love that the real good quality

1405
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:43,849
witnesses ex-military pilots

1406
00:59:49,150 --> 00:59:46,730
law enforcement they tend to be a little

1407
00:59:51,069 --> 00:59:49,160
bit better quality witnesses and I'm

1408
00:59:52,749 --> 00:59:51,079
always on the lookout for corroborating

1409
00:59:55,870 --> 00:59:52,759
witnesses that have some sort of

1410
00:59:58,269 --> 00:59:55,880
training you know operational awareness

1411
01:00:01,359 --> 00:59:58,279
of their surroundings that sort of thing

1412
01:00:03,309 --> 01:00:01,369
but a lot of times you know we just have

1413
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:03,319
to settle for the fact that it's going

1414
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:04,880
to be some Yahoo and the Trailer Park

1415
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:08,089
Siskin you know have a really incredible

1416
01:00:13,569 --> 01:00:11,930
sighting and unfortunately his his uncle

1417
01:00:15,339 --> 01:00:13,579
in law's a full-bird Colonel or

1418
01:00:17,410 --> 01:00:15,349
something in the Air Force didn't happen

1419
01:00:20,289 --> 01:00:17,420
to be there that day unfortunately so

1420
01:00:23,259 --> 01:00:20,299
you know you it does get TWiki it gets

1421
01:00:27,069 --> 01:00:23,269
torquey it gets gets all those things

1422
01:00:29,259 --> 01:00:27,079
and we really should I think expand our

1423
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:29,269
horizons a little bit and and really you

1424
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:30,050
know

1425
01:00:33,550 --> 01:00:32,090
open it up I think and get creative oh

1426
01:00:35,710 --> 01:00:33,560
they're thinking that's a constant

1427
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:35,720
mantra that we that we hear around here

1428
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:37,850
at the para cast is you know we need

1429
01:00:41,890 --> 01:00:39,920
creative thinkers the kids I think are

1430
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:41,900
little jaded and cynical but they they

1431
01:00:45,130 --> 01:00:43,370
do tend to come up from time to time

1432
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:45,140
with some pretty interesting insights I

1433
01:00:51,210 --> 01:00:49,010
think that that are creative and deserve

1434
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:51,220
some attention instead of you know the

1435
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:53,510
backhanded slap and you know go sit in

1436
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:55,520
the corner type attitude that some of

1437
01:01:00,490 --> 01:00:58,880
the older guard in the apology has but

1438
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:00,500
you know they haven't solved it in sixty

1439
01:01:06,940 --> 01:01:03,890
plus years so perhaps it's time to bring

1440
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:06,950
in some fresh ideas fresh perspectives

1441
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:08,480
and and some creative thinking and

1442
01:01:13,210 --> 01:01:11,450
that's and I think I try to do with the

1443
01:01:15,730 --> 01:01:13,220
conference actually Curson that's what

1444
01:01:17,470 --> 01:01:15,740
have you know upbringing that what I

1445
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:17,480
generally referred to as a circus but

1446
01:01:22,450 --> 01:01:20,000
but what I'm trying to do is bring in

1447
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:22,460
guys who give us a new perspective and

1448
01:01:25,660 --> 01:01:23,930
there's a lot of stuff that we already

1449
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:25,670
you know guys have been doing it for a

1450
01:01:28,570 --> 01:01:27,110
long time the Congress here has been

1451
01:01:30,970 --> 01:01:28,580
filled with a lot of great researchers I

1452
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:30,980
mean you know we've we've had you know

1453
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:32,720
Wendell Stephen just to you know hang

1454
01:01:38,140 --> 01:01:34,730
with us on a regular occasion bran

1455
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:38,150
bassoon and cook Wendell never met a UFO

1456
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:40,310
pitcher and it didn't like I saw him at

1457
01:01:45,460 --> 01:01:42,530
a conference here in Phoenix in 98 and

1458
01:01:47,950 --> 01:01:45,470
he he had this I forget the guys name

1459
01:01:49,810 --> 01:01:47,960
was some Joe somebody from Denver that

1460
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:49,820
was coming up with all these in the way

1461
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:52,370
too good to be true photographs and one

1462
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:55,130
of them was of this huge disc-shaped

1463
01:01:59,470 --> 01:01:57,530
object broad daylight hovering over the

1464
01:02:01,990 --> 01:01:59,480
country store in my town of kress town

1465
01:02:04,060 --> 01:02:02,000
and I even recognized the two cars in

1466
01:02:06,310 --> 01:02:04,070
the picture I knew who whose cars they

1467
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:06,320
were and I had to grab Wendell after

1468
01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:08,960
this after concocted that they window

1469
01:02:13,780 --> 01:02:11,510
you know I can't vouch for any of the

1470
01:02:16,210 --> 01:02:13,790
other photographs but I'm guaranteeing

1471
01:02:18,250 --> 01:02:16,220
you that that photograph over the

1472
01:02:21,310 --> 01:02:18,260
country store in Creston was absolutely

1473
01:02:24,580 --> 01:02:21,320
a fake there's no way in hell that that

1474
01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:24,590
shot could have been taken without half

1475
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:26,240
the town knowing about it within minutes

1476
01:02:32,380 --> 01:02:29,450
and he said well you got some good stuff

1477
01:02:35,170 --> 01:02:32,390
though before so you know well I think

1478
01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:35,180
it's really telling you it's not if I

1479
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:36,710
see that's what you come to realize when

1480
01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:38,210
you start hanging with these guys is

1481
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:40,950
that they bought it all you know

1482
01:02:44,509 --> 01:02:43,049
I remember it was funny because I was

1483
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:44,519
talking out loud about the incident that

1484
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:46,529
is one conference and grandpa theorist

1485
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:49,410
was speaking and Graham had you know

1486
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:51,450
given his usual government account of

1487
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:54,569
what he did you know this that you know

1488
01:02:58,999 --> 01:02:56,730
don't his whole account that was fine

1489
01:03:00,680 --> 01:02:59,009
and then you started anyone's I care

1490
01:03:02,180 --> 01:03:00,690
last week I was flying around the solar

1491
01:03:05,329 --> 01:03:02,190
system with the alien genie like ooh Oh

1492
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:05,339
what just happened there yeah and that

1493
01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:07,680
kind of near like and I was mentioning

1494
01:03:13,220 --> 01:03:10,430
that out loud amongst some pairs

1495
01:03:15,410 --> 01:03:13,230
parapsychologists one day and and one of

1496
01:03:18,349 --> 01:03:15,420
them said yes I go you know about this

1497
01:03:19,759 --> 01:03:18,359
well I guess and it aged military guys

1498
01:03:20,809 --> 01:03:19,769
you know once they reach a certain age

1499
01:03:22,999 --> 01:03:20,819
you know we don't know whether the

1500
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:23,009
curtains rising or falling but this

1501
01:03:27,859 --> 01:03:25,200
seems to be a common occurrence so when

1502
01:03:29,930 --> 01:03:27,869
it comes to the military guys especially

1503
01:03:32,749 --> 01:03:29,940
guys who like don't have a wife and who

1504
01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:32,759
aren't grounded and this kind of goes it

1505
01:03:38,839 --> 01:03:35,160
segues into my biblical stuff of sorts

1506
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:38,849
let's go into that stuff of sorts in our

1507
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next segment with Jeana and Chris you're

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Hamner and that was me in 2007 and we

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forum dr parra cast calm

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biblical stuff course David well you

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find like I won't mention names but

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there are a few at least a few

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well-known researchers and every one of

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them and I mean first I have to preface

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it because and Chris has seen it and

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we've all experienced it but if you feel

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like really you're digging into this

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stuff and you know you're not grounded I

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mean you can like really go off the off

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the rails and I mean there's no offense

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about about it I've seen a 100 thousand

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times you have to have some sort of

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ground you have to know when to step

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away from it and and get a grip and you

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know because if you can if you always

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say if you hang out with this with the

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UFO crowd you think they're going to

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land you know any minute now and if they

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hang out with the you know the Bible

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crowd you know Jesus going to come in

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any minute now it sometimes you just

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kind of have to step back and you if you

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01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,250
know what's going on you just have to

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get a grip and say you know let me get

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reoriented so what I found is that you

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01:09:11,599 --> 01:09:08,790
get a lot of these guys and if they

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don't have a wife for somebody and for

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these specific ages each one of them

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have had a wife or a husband who is a

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practicing Christian and they kind of

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reel them in when they start going off

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the rails

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so it's I've noticed that the marriages

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who survive this have this component and

1643
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if there seems to be something you know

1644
01:09:36,410 --> 01:09:32,060
that keeps catching solidified but

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01:09:38,420 --> 01:09:36,420
that's just one one aspect of yeah or

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01:09:42,620 --> 01:09:38,430
friendly did tell Tom to chill out

1647
01:09:44,599 --> 01:09:42,630
you're kind of your you need a break or

1648
01:09:47,900 --> 01:09:44,609
you're starting to sound a little a

1649
01:09:52,099 --> 01:09:47,910
little questionable no but you know

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01:09:54,170 --> 01:09:52,109
don't forget you know your sanity is at

1651
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:54,180
stake here I've seen some people really

1652
01:10:01,310 --> 01:09:58,800
just just totally lose it and especially

1653
01:10:02,750 --> 01:10:01,320
in the cattle mutilation investigative

1654
01:10:06,260 --> 01:10:02,760
realm that's that's even tougher

1655
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:06,270
you think UFOs are tough he should

1656
01:10:13,190 --> 01:10:09,600
should try being a unexplained livestock

1657
01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:13,200
death investigator it we just today on

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01:10:17,420 --> 01:10:15,260
the para cast we had a post from a

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01:10:20,090 --> 01:10:17,430
investigative researcher out in Missouri

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01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:20,100
the claims that one of the scientists

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that they've been working with out there

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had a

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most encounter and now it has

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01:10:27,570 --> 01:10:25,480
fast-acting cancer and getting ready to

1665
01:10:29,940 --> 01:10:27,580
die it's like where does this stuff

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01:10:30,570 --> 01:10:29,950
start where does it go to and then when

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01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:30,580
does it end

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:33,280
you know it's it's all subject to

1669
01:10:36,210 --> 01:10:35,050
interpretation and if you're not like

1670
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:36,220
you said if you're not grounded and

1671
01:10:40,020 --> 01:10:37,810
really focused and centered you're going

1672
01:10:41,970 --> 01:10:40,030
to have a problem dealing with this

1673
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:41,980
stuff on any level

1674
01:10:47,630 --> 01:10:45,040
yeah it's true and unfortunately if you

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01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:47,640
hang out within that community you know

1676
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:49,450
you're not going to get somebody to

1677
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:50,890
who's going to dial you in they're going

1678
01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:52,090
to feed they're going to feed your trip

1679
01:10:59,190 --> 01:10:54,820
so and and I can't get wacky I mean I

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01:11:01,320 --> 01:10:59,200
was telling I was moved five or six

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years back but I was like in like

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01:11:06,090 --> 01:11:03,580
hardcore mode and I was doing a lot of a

1683
01:11:08,190 --> 01:11:06,100
lot of archives a lot of book reading

1684
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:08,200
and going through all kinds of film and

1685
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:10,210
going out to active areas and I was

1686
01:11:16,050 --> 01:11:11,890
hopping it was moot because it was kind

1687
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,060
of 2008 2007 but it was popping you know

1688
01:11:22,260 --> 01:11:19,360
and I was out at a local place and

1689
01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:22,270
there's this gunmetal black like c-140

1690
01:11:27,180 --> 01:11:25,120
trans for just kind of lumbering me in

1691
01:11:29,670 --> 01:11:27,190
the sky so I got out my camera phone

1692
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:29,680
because my camera phones HD so I put it

1693
01:11:34,620 --> 01:11:31,690
onto the object the object wouldn't come

1694
01:11:36,090 --> 01:11:34,630
into the finder wasn't there it's almost

1695
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:36,100
like a waste I guys got a bank near this

1696
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:37,930
tree over here so I set it up and I'm

1697
01:11:40,620 --> 01:11:39,370
waiting for at the bank and it's right

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01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:40,630
there in the camera should be in the

1699
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:42,790
camera and it's not in my viewfinder so

1700
01:11:47,220 --> 01:11:45,130
I'm like damn the camera broke so I get

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:47,230
my car I Drive maybe five feet and I

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01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:48,250
said wait a second

1703
01:11:51,330 --> 01:11:50,230
so I got the car and look at around the

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01:11:53,010 --> 01:11:51,340
circle it's capturing everything else

1705
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:53,020
why isn't it's capturing the house in

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01:11:56,190 --> 01:11:54,880
front of me why is it not cat and the

1707
01:11:57,450 --> 01:11:56,200
thing wasn't making any noise and it's

1708
01:12:00,480 --> 01:11:57,460
just bizarre I don't know how to explain

1709
01:12:02,730 --> 01:12:00,490
it's just bizarre so I go home and a

1710
01:12:04,110 --> 01:12:02,740
bunch of the local old time researchers

1711
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:04,120
did give me a bunch of their research

1712
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:07,120
and I dug under this pile of VHS and I

1713
01:12:11,220 --> 01:12:09,040
pull out the tape and stick it in and

1714
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:11,230
it's Bruce Cornett and who used to be

1715
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:13,210
with our Congress and he used to put up

1716
01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:14,530
some interesting stuff your interesting

1717
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:18,760
character but he's talking about he's

1718
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:20,710
trying to catch this big black airplane

1719
01:12:23,850 --> 01:12:22,330
that's lumbering across the road in

1720
01:12:25,620 --> 01:12:23,860
front of him real won't come into his

1721
01:12:27,660 --> 01:12:25,630
viewfinder but he does manage to take a

1722
01:12:29,490 --> 01:12:27,670
picture but it's all kinds of weird you

1723
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:29,500
know color lines and stuff like that but

1724
01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:31,030
he's basically describing exactly what I

1725
01:12:34,860 --> 01:12:33,640
just got done coming from and it's just

1726
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:34,870
like you just get into those modes where

1727
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:36,110
everything synchronicity

1728
01:12:39,340 --> 01:12:38,960
popping in the moment it's not you next

1729
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:39,350
week

1730
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:41,690
and it gets kind of weird but I was

1731
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:43,040
talking to Hanson about it and he's just

1732
01:12:47,290 --> 01:12:45,920
like oh yeah yeah you have your your

1733
01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:47,300
murse you have your head totally into it

1734
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:49,790
so these things do take on you know

1735
01:12:54,220 --> 01:12:52,490
those aspects and it's true and you're

1736
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:54,230
not aware of that mean you're mildly

1737
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:56,570
aware of it when you get an acute case

1738
01:13:01,330 --> 01:12:58,250
of it it's nice to have people around

1739
01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:01,340
who can you know reorient human fermium

1740
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:03,440
tour Jansen is one of those guys now I

1741
01:13:08,410 --> 01:13:06,080
should tell you with George Hanson there

1742
01:13:12,970 --> 01:13:08,420
is a long discussion in our forms about

1743
01:13:16,060 --> 01:13:12,980
the fact that he is a skeptic of a very

1744
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:16,070
key UFO abduction case it was covered in

1745
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,490
a book by Budd Hopkins and the we had

1746
01:13:24,820 --> 01:13:21,440
the Linda case right to the Linda case

1747
01:13:26,770 --> 01:13:24,830
and the point being here is that we have

1748
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:26,780
a regular visitor to our forms who was

1749
01:13:31,330 --> 01:13:29,600
acquainted with Linda and was acquainted

1750
01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:31,340
with Budd Hopkins and when he was alive

1751
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:35,960
and has done extensive research into it

1752
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:38,210
pointing out areas many areas where

1753
01:13:44,530 --> 01:13:40,970
George Hansen basically missed the boat

1754
01:13:46,450 --> 01:13:44,540
rather big time on the grasp of facts he

1755
01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:46,460
got a lot of things wrong chapter and

1756
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:49,910
verse yeah I mean but the other thing is

1757
01:13:53,290 --> 01:13:51,890
I know some of that team that was you

1758
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:53,300
know put together for that and they were

1759
01:14:00,670 --> 01:13:57,610
like you know some serious you know

1760
01:14:02,530 --> 01:14:00,680
ex-cops and detective isms and

1761
01:14:05,020 --> 01:14:02,540
investigators and it was sort of like

1762
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:05,030
that so it wasn't a ragtag group that

1763
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:08,330
George had together but George can take

1764
01:14:12,850 --> 01:14:09,920
apart a story and that's what we're here

1765
01:14:15,940 --> 01:14:12,860
to do everyone if you're going to put up

1766
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:15,950
some you know crazy claim and you better

1767
01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:17,840
be able to back it up and I had David

1768
01:14:21,220 --> 01:14:19,280
Jacob stand here for a conference and we

1769
01:14:24,730 --> 01:14:21,230
were talking about this exact thing and

1770
01:14:26,530 --> 01:14:24,740
he was he was still mad and George was

1771
01:14:30,700 --> 01:14:26,540
in the audience for his talk but you

1772
01:14:32,770 --> 01:14:30,710
know it's weird because David Jacobs is

1773
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:32,780
not one of those guys nice guy people

1774
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:36,560
love to hear him talk but that there's a

1775
01:14:41,260 --> 01:14:39,530
lot of these guys in the biblical UFO

1776
01:14:44,620 --> 01:14:41,270
field I call it and they interview him

1777
01:14:46,420 --> 01:14:44,630
and David Jacob had no idea that there

1778
01:14:48,190 --> 01:14:46,430
could ever be anything else other than

1779
01:14:49,540 --> 01:14:48,200
this alien stuff and they're they're

1780
01:14:51,819 --> 01:14:49,550
springing you know just bringing

1781
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:51,829
reverse on him and say you know this

1782
01:14:58,510 --> 01:14:54,730
doesn't sound exactly the same way and

1783
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:58,520
no idea so you have to take it from that

1784
01:15:02,319 --> 01:14:59,840
kind of that point of view I mean it's

1785
01:15:05,649 --> 01:15:02,329
like how tunnel visions are people you

1786
01:15:06,939 --> 01:15:05,659
know how oh how long had they milk this

1787
01:15:08,319 --> 01:15:06,949
cow and this is the cow that they're

1788
01:15:12,010 --> 01:15:08,329
going to milk you know until you know

1789
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:12,020
they're done but I mean I'm befuddled

1790
01:15:17,169 --> 01:15:14,570
how so many researchers are still in the

1791
01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:17,179
alien thing at all of you honest with

1792
01:15:21,549 --> 01:15:18,800
you I mean pretty much everybody has

1793
01:15:23,020 --> 01:15:21,559
moved we have a real progression where

1794
01:15:25,390 --> 01:15:23,030
you go through the system and you're

1795
01:15:26,799 --> 01:15:25,400
like argh and UFOs aliens and then maybe

1796
01:15:29,709 --> 01:15:26,809
get a little critical and then you start

1797
01:15:31,180 --> 01:15:29,719
you know you're looking at the the cons

1798
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:31,190
of every argument now and saying well

1799
01:15:35,169 --> 01:15:33,199
make the point and they make a point you

1800
01:15:37,089 --> 01:15:35,179
start saying yeah these questions have

1801
01:15:39,129 --> 01:15:37,099
to be answered and those questions never

1802
01:15:40,419 --> 01:15:39,139
seem to get answered and eventually they

1803
01:15:41,979 --> 01:15:40,429
do and you were right to start out with

1804
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,989
but you took a bunch of flack on the

1805
01:15:47,109 --> 01:15:43,280
front end that nobody remembers anything

1806
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:47,119
on the tail end so you're not a follower

1807
01:15:53,859 --> 01:15:52,159
of Erich von Daniken's claim and many

1808
01:15:56,379 --> 01:15:53,869
others made the same claim he wasn't

1809
01:16:00,250 --> 01:15:56,389
even the first that we were possibly

1810
01:16:02,530 --> 01:16:00,260
visited by higher beings or alien beings

1811
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:02,540
or something in ancient times that there

1812
01:16:07,089 --> 01:16:05,210
was a presence of an advanced race you

1813
01:16:08,589 --> 01:16:07,099
don't subscribe to any of that I'll have

1814
01:16:11,799 --> 01:16:08,599
you answer that question our next

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01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:11,809
segment so we've got a lot more to go

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with our guest this week on the para

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cast this is really fascinating we're

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talking to David Stinnett of the New

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Jersey UFO conference we have a link to

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the power cast site by the way for one

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radio she see end this alert just came

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in this special announcement is for

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business owners and leaders of

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organizations who've been waiting for

1876
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the right time to build general steel

1877
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has made it impossible to wait any

1878
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longer with rock-bottom prices that

1879
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could save you thousands that's right

1880
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:06,480
general steel America's leader in pre

1881
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engineered structures is offering

1882
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buildings at prices you will never see

1883
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:12,690
again don't miss these prices of 50 by

1884
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100 for $35,000 you heard right that's

1885
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:18,270
5000 square feet for $35,000

1886
01:19:22,250 --> 01:19:20,010
manufacturers if you need a larger

1887
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:22,260
building try a 100 by 100 commercial

1888
01:19:25,550 --> 01:19:23,489
building for a hundred and twenty nine

1889
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:25,560
thousand you can't afford to rent with

1890
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:27,930
these prices imagine a 70 by 100 foot

1891
01:19:31,310 --> 01:19:29,489
church building for under sixty nine

1892
01:19:33,229 --> 01:19:31,320
thousand dollars with the economy

1893
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:33,239
improving and interest rates still at

1894
01:19:39,650 --> 01:19:35,370
historic lows you can't afford to wait

1895
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:39,660
so call 866 91 steel lock in your price

1896
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:43,770
now call 866 91 steel that's eight six

1897
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:48,810
six nine one seven 83 35 yeah do you

1898
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:50,400
want to see me sir well I did but now

1899
01:19:53,420 --> 01:19:52,410
that I do I'm not so sure sir Johnson I

1900
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:53,430
got a mission for you it could change

1901
01:19:56,930 --> 01:19:55,440
your life oh good sir it involves

1902
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:56,940
traveling halfway around the world but

1903
01:19:59,150 --> 01:19:58,290
that's as much as half a clue where

1904
01:20:00,800 --> 01:19:59,160
you're going to what you're gonna do

1905
01:20:02,540 --> 01:20:00,810
when you get there situation normal sir

1906
01:20:03,979 --> 01:20:02,550
hey well I'll be leading this mission

1907
01:20:05,810 --> 01:20:03,989
Johnson so I'll be telling you what to

1908
01:20:06,979 --> 01:20:05,820
do you sir that's right Jensen and I say

1909
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:06,989
first things first

1910
01:20:11,390 --> 01:20:09,210
good plan sir and when I say is first is

1911
01:20:13,310 --> 01:20:11,400
food always remember that Johnson food

1912
01:20:14,540 --> 01:20:13,320
is a big deal Sarah my brother Larkin

1913
01:20:16,610 --> 01:20:14,550
gives a really good deal on some surplus

1914
01:20:18,710 --> 01:20:16,620
MREs Johnson if you've got half a brain

1915
01:20:21,020 --> 01:20:18,720
and that empty head of yours you'll call

1916
01:20:23,300 --> 01:20:21,030
the freeze dry guy like I did that food

1917
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:23,310
is better for it rehydrates faster and

1918
01:20:28,729 --> 01:20:26,010
it's good Johnson and it peeps for up to

1919
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:28,739
30 years we be gone that long sir I hope

1920
01:20:31,070 --> 01:20:29,310
not

1921
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:31,080
now get your supplies organized and meet

1922
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:33,270
me down to the pier at dawn on Sunday we

1923
01:20:37,490 --> 01:20:34,560
sail son

1924
01:20:41,540 --> 01:20:37,500
yes sir this adventure has brought to

1925
01:20:53,450 --> 01:20:41,550
you by the freeze-dry guy call 866 404

1926
01:20:55,940 --> 01:20:53,460
3-6 6-3 or visit freeze-dry guy.com this

1927
01:20:58,670 --> 01:20:55,950
is Jacques Vallee are you listening to

1928
01:21:07,250 --> 01:20:58,680
the podcast the gold standard of

1929
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:07,260
paranormal waiting so UFOs in biblical

1930
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:07,920
times

1931
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:10,800
were they UFOs David Stennett yeah I

1932
01:21:14,930 --> 01:21:12,210
don't know we were talking about man

1933
01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:14,940
Vanagon report no I don't subscribe to

1934
01:21:21,530 --> 01:21:18,510
that at all actually so and then the

1935
01:21:24,830 --> 01:21:21,540
thing is it's funny because I was in Le

1936
01:21:27,470 --> 01:21:24,840
Mars uli does this UFO series and it's

1937
01:21:29,150 --> 01:21:27,480
basically done from a biblical point of

1938
01:21:31,010 --> 01:21:29,160
view and he doesn't beat you over the

1939
01:21:34,220 --> 01:21:31,020
head with it and he actually does pretty

1940
01:21:35,690 --> 01:21:34,230
good job on most of these things but he

1941
01:21:38,090 --> 01:21:35,700
would he was telling me that you know

1942
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:38,100
he'd be in on ancient aliens you know

1943
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:41,040
and they'd pretty much give everybody

1944
01:21:45,980 --> 01:21:43,920
else a free run you know say their piece

1945
01:21:48,290 --> 01:21:45,990
but when he would give his his trip

1946
01:21:49,670 --> 01:21:48,300
basically they had it all to edit it all

1947
01:21:52,850 --> 01:21:49,680
up make it sound like you know was an

1948
01:21:55,940 --> 01:21:52,860
extraterrestrial so I know a fellow

1949
01:21:56,990 --> 01:21:55,950
years ago name of Jelena Fortner don't

1950
01:21:59,630 --> 01:21:57,000
know if you remember him

1951
01:22:03,290 --> 01:21:59,640
very close with Jim Mosely he died

1952
01:22:05,450 --> 01:22:03,300
probably in the early 2000s I think

1953
01:22:09,170 --> 01:22:05,460
because I was in touch with him up till

1954
01:22:12,770 --> 01:22:09,180
then and Yona basically says that the

1955
01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:12,780
God of the Bible was the pilot of a

1956
01:22:19,370 --> 01:22:15,780
spaceship and he was writing about this

1957
01:22:21,230 --> 01:22:19,380
in the 50s way before fund Daniken I'm

1958
01:22:24,050 --> 01:22:21,240
really careful about the pronunciation

1959
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:24,060
because of the fact that one of our

1960
01:22:28,940 --> 01:22:25,980
regular listeners and our staff

1961
01:22:31,310 --> 01:22:28,950
announcer Bob said Adi was correcting me

1962
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:31,320
on European pronunciations and I won't

1963
01:22:35,540 --> 01:22:33,930
even go there so what do you think of

1964
01:22:37,310 --> 01:22:35,550
any of that you don't think that there's

1965
01:22:39,860 --> 01:22:37,320
any possibility that if UFOs are real

1966
01:22:42,170 --> 01:22:39,870
today we represent a physical phenomenon

1967
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:42,180
and obviously you have questions about

1968
01:22:46,610 --> 01:22:44,130
what they might really be there's a

1969
01:22:47,260 --> 01:22:46,620
possibility that that force whatever it

1970
01:22:50,440 --> 01:22:47,270
is was

1971
01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:50,450
then with that that's where you start

1972
01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:51,920
getting into the real nuts and bolts of

1973
01:22:56,140 --> 01:22:54,320
this I think because you have to be

1974
01:22:58,270 --> 01:22:56,150
really boned up on your modern physics

1975
01:23:01,090 --> 01:22:58,280
models and your you know your your

1976
01:23:02,770 --> 01:23:01,100
modern holographic universe Theory

1977
01:23:04,690 --> 01:23:02,780
models and your multiverses and stuff

1978
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:04,700
like that because how do you even start

1979
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:06,530
diving into something like this well

1980
01:23:11,470 --> 01:23:09,790
just start at the beginning yeah I mean

1981
01:23:13,630 --> 01:23:11,480
Chris and I were having a conversation

1982
01:23:15,670 --> 01:23:13,640
that was about the Germans had come up

1983
01:23:17,710 --> 01:23:15,680
with this machine it's called the C II

1984
01:23:18,910 --> 01:23:17,720
600 and it was something they're trying

1985
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:18,920
to pick up the spaces in between

1986
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:20,690
dimensions or something to that effect

1987
01:23:25,780 --> 01:23:22,970
and it was very sensitive machine what a

1988
01:23:28,900 --> 01:23:25,790
machine with a haywire so what they

1989
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:28,910
decided somebody suggested try Jones

1990
01:23:32,860 --> 01:23:30,650
theory of the holographic universe

1991
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:32,870
recalibrated so I was following that

1992
01:23:38,020 --> 01:23:36,410
because it's important because they they

1993
01:23:39,970 --> 01:23:38,030
know that basically everything in our

1994
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:39,980
universe everything is mathematically

1995
01:23:46,180 --> 01:23:43,280
perfect everything our planet from you

1996
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:46,190
know the ozone and our protective layers

1997
01:23:51,670 --> 01:23:49,730
to the microbes in the ground it's

1998
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:51,680
everything's very specific and I was a

1999
01:23:58,660 --> 01:23:55,610
little too specific so what they're what

2000
01:24:01,330 --> 01:23:58,670
they're they're trying to do is is see

2001
01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:01,340
if this isn't well and the movie The

2002
01:24:07,180 --> 01:24:03,440
Matrix is based off that theory on a

2003
01:24:08,380 --> 01:24:07,190
1956 Theory basically so I was looking

2004
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:08,390
towards that hadn't seen anything

2005
01:24:12,370 --> 01:24:10,250
evidently Fermilab's picked up that

2006
01:24:15,250 --> 01:24:12,380
research for some reason so I was

2007
01:24:17,710 --> 01:24:15,260
looking for that because if that if if

2008
01:24:18,790 --> 01:24:17,720
it comes out that this is I don't know

2009
01:24:20,530 --> 01:24:18,800
how they would release that to the

2010
01:24:22,860 --> 01:24:20,540
public frankly but if they find out that

2011
01:24:25,300 --> 01:24:22,870
it actually is then that means this is a

2012
01:24:28,570 --> 01:24:25,310
created reality which is basically what

2013
01:24:33,010 --> 01:24:28,580
the old testament new testament has been

2014
01:24:35,260 --> 01:24:33,020
saying all along you know this is this

2015
01:24:37,390 --> 01:24:35,270
is a created reality and I think most of

2016
01:24:39,130 --> 01:24:37,400
us know that there are receptor packaged

2017
01:24:40,570 --> 01:24:39,140
our brain isn't really picking up

2018
01:24:42,340 --> 01:24:40,580
everything that's going on around us I

2019
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:42,350
mean we use different you know light

2020
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:44,510
spectrums to pick up not at the UFOs

2021
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:47,840
we're out in in western Pennsylvania

2022
01:24:53,890 --> 01:24:49,280
where we have somebody spotting with a

2023
01:24:56,050 --> 01:24:53,900
with a night vision to put us rest of us

2024
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:56,060
who have night vision onto it and when

2025
01:24:59,590 --> 01:24:57,770
you're filming it you can't you step

2026
01:25:00,930 --> 01:24:59,600
away from a camera you can't see it with

2027
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:00,940
the naked eye there's nothing there

2028
01:25:05,610 --> 01:25:02,650
but when you go back to the night vision

2029
01:25:07,050 --> 01:25:05,620
boom it's there so we also have to

2030
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:07,060
realize that we're not getting the full

2031
01:25:11,729 --> 01:25:08,770
picture on what's going on around us so

2032
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:11,739
and from that standpoint you know that

2033
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:13,330
some of this stuff starts to jive a

2034
01:25:17,370 --> 01:25:16,090
little bit and when you start getting

2035
01:25:18,510 --> 01:25:17,380
into this to start popping in the guys

2036
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:18,520
like I'm happy are you guys familiar

2037
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:21,760
with Joe Jordan know the name kind of

2038
01:25:25,650 --> 01:25:22,930
rings a bell but I'm not familiar with

2039
01:25:27,780 --> 01:25:25,660
his work yet Joe Jordan is a former

2040
01:25:30,140 --> 01:25:27,790
MUFON regional director and like that

2041
01:25:33,689 --> 01:25:30,150
one Florida or something like that but

2042
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:33,699
the stand-up guy got was into all the

2043
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:36,370
you know the love and looking New Age

2044
01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:38,250
stuff and all that you know good stuff

2045
01:25:43,140 --> 01:25:41,080
evidently he found Jesus and started you

2046
01:25:45,150 --> 01:25:43,150
know doing research from a biblical

2047
01:25:47,610 --> 01:25:45,160
point of view so I started doing the

2048
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:47,620
abduction stuff from the point of view

2049
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:50,050
that it said you know the demonic or

2050
01:25:54,030 --> 01:25:51,730
something to that effect so what he

2051
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:54,040
found was is that he had yes I mean I

2052
01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:55,360
think he's still collecting data but he

2053
01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:57,760
has boatloads of people who have said

2054
01:26:01,020 --> 01:25:58,719
you know in the middle of one of these

2055
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:01,030
things you know I call out to Jesus and

2056
01:26:06,450 --> 01:26:04,960
it stops immediately and so he has I'm

2057
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:06,460
assuming before it's all over this will

2058
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:08,050
probably have as much as blood Hopkins

2059
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:10,210
or anybody else and my personal point of

2060
01:26:14,070 --> 01:26:12,370
view is what his state is no worse or

2061
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:14,080
better or worse than Budd Hopkins or

2062
01:26:17,250 --> 01:26:16,090
anybody else's so and as far as I'm

2063
01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:17,260
concerned it's all on the table we put

2064
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:19,750
it all on the table I know like

2065
01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:21,130
Christmas saying we have to think

2066
01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:22,750
outside the box and at this point in a

2067
01:26:26,580 --> 01:26:24,790
game we have 60 years of some fairly

2068
01:26:28,620 --> 01:26:26,590
decent scientific research and we have

2069
01:26:30,030 --> 01:26:28,630
pretty much a build goose egg so we need

2070
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:30,040
to start thinking differently

2071
01:26:36,330 --> 01:26:32,410
Jose research has and he did a big thing

2072
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:36,340
in in Roswell where he had these people

2073
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:40,330
come in and tell the thing but even if

2074
01:26:44,970 --> 01:26:42,070
that's a small section of the abduction

2075
01:26:47,010 --> 01:26:44,980
phenomena the fact of the matter is

2076
01:26:49,500 --> 01:26:47,020
whatever these things are seem to be

2077
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:49,510
scared to this Jesus guy and it stops

2078
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:51,010
immediately so we know it's not a lien

2079
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:52,930
and in a sense because aliens were

2080
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:55,090
somebody from another galaxy or plant or

2081
01:26:59,400 --> 01:26:57,760
whatever might be like had Jesus and

2082
01:27:01,650 --> 01:26:59,410
move along you know and keep doing what

2083
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:01,660
they're doing but evidently his end the

2084
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:03,190
research is showing that there this is

2085
01:27:06,810 --> 01:27:04,960
something happening and Joe works in

2086
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:06,820
like aerospace over in Korea and Japan

2087
01:27:09,870 --> 01:27:07,570
it's over here

2088
01:27:11,820 --> 01:27:09,880
Joe's not a slouch and he's a stand-up

2089
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:11,830
guy so at you know at that point in a

2090
01:27:14,590 --> 01:27:13,090
game you start going through what he's

2091
01:27:16,510 --> 01:27:14,600
putting out and you're like well that's

2092
01:27:18,610 --> 01:27:16,520
interesting that stuff I've never heard

2093
01:27:21,250 --> 01:27:18,620
about in UFO community and if I wasn't

2094
01:27:22,540 --> 01:27:21,260
you know in these particular pursuits I

2095
01:27:25,420 --> 01:27:22,550
probably never would have heard about it

2096
01:27:27,130 --> 01:27:25,430
so it's just another aspect to that well

2097
01:27:29,940 --> 01:27:27,140
want you kind of pigeonholing this thing

2098
01:27:33,340 --> 01:27:29,950
into a Western you know judeo-christian

2099
01:27:35,470 --> 01:27:33,350
sort of playing field here what would

2100
01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:35,480
happen if somebody in India it's true

2101
01:27:39,610 --> 01:27:37,040
but you got to figure most of this stuff

2102
01:27:41,650 --> 01:27:39,620
is mostly Semitic so it's you know it

2103
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:41,660
had its roots over there I mean the

2104
01:27:47,020 --> 01:27:44,090
westernization of it has just brutalized

2105
01:27:50,140 --> 01:27:47,030
it my personal opinion but I mean it's

2106
01:27:51,820 --> 01:27:50,150
it is to certain extent Chris yeah but

2107
01:27:53,290 --> 01:27:51,830
in a bigger in the bigger picture it all

2108
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:53,300
started over there and it's still all

2109
01:27:58,720 --> 01:27:55,250
big over there's no and there's no

2110
01:28:01,540 --> 01:27:58,730
difference over there and yeah Jesus I

2111
01:28:03,700 --> 01:28:01,550
would think is also in India too so yeah

2112
01:28:06,490 --> 01:28:03,710
it's all contextual I mean it depends on

2113
01:28:09,250 --> 01:28:06,500
on you know your your upbringing your

2114
01:28:13,180 --> 01:28:09,260
belief system I mean in in you know in

2115
01:28:16,150 --> 01:28:13,190
the Islamic countries for instance are

2116
01:28:19,630 --> 01:28:16,160
the jinn are considered to be sort of

2117
01:28:22,930 --> 01:28:19,640
quasi demonic type forms and and so I

2118
01:28:25,060 --> 01:28:22,940
don't know if Japan how using the name

2119
01:28:27,550 --> 01:28:25,070
Jesus would have anything that to any

2120
01:28:29,290 --> 01:28:27,560
effect on a jinn but maybe calling out

2121
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:29,300
the name of the Prophet Mohammed might

2122
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:31,760
vanish to him or something I mean how do

2123
01:28:35,260 --> 01:28:33,530
you where do you draw the line that's

2124
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:35,270
actually a really good point I'll talk

2125
01:28:38,530 --> 01:28:37,520
to Joe because that's that's there's one

2126
01:28:41,620 --> 01:28:38,540
of those questions have to be answered

2127
01:28:44,500 --> 01:28:41,630
is does he have people from other other

2128
01:28:46,570 --> 01:28:44,510
parts of the world giving the same type

2129
01:28:47,890 --> 01:28:46,580
of testimony and if he does and you know

2130
01:28:49,690 --> 01:28:47,900
there's another little piece that we get

2131
01:28:53,140 --> 01:28:49,700
that the puzzle but it's a good question

2132
01:28:54,670 --> 01:28:53,150
I'm just listening to this yeah I was

2133
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:54,680
going to say what do you have to say

2134
01:28:58,750 --> 01:28:56,810
about that gene let's get this guy in

2135
01:29:00,730 --> 01:28:58,760
the show and see what he has to do what

2136
01:29:02,050 --> 01:29:00,740
he has done and see where he stands

2137
01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:02,060
because I'm always interested in

2138
01:29:06,970 --> 01:29:04,400
different approaches to this because I

2139
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:06,980
know I've read books a few books over

2140
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:09,110
the years where some people were

2141
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:12,250
relating UFOs to some kind of demonic

2142
01:29:17,650 --> 01:29:15,410
phenomenon of some kind so I'm surprised

2143
01:29:19,210 --> 01:29:17,660
by nothing well that's kind of why I

2144
01:29:20,620 --> 01:29:19,220
went to those things because you start

2145
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:20,630
reading like ballet-like messengers of

2146
01:29:25,150 --> 01:29:22,880
deception and when you're actually in

2147
01:29:26,350 --> 01:29:25,160
the field you realize there's more BS

2148
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:26,360
flying around here and you shake a stick

2149
01:29:28,450 --> 01:29:26,690
at

2150
01:29:29,860 --> 01:29:28,460
I mean it's completely deceptive and

2151
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:29,870
more different angles and shake a stick

2152
01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:32,210
at so I started saying well what's the

2153
01:29:36,910 --> 01:29:34,400
world attacking and and what deals with

2154
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:36,920
you know deception and my mom used to

2155
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:38,090
work at institute for advanced study

2156
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:39,770
with tellin Oppenheimer so she's an

2157
01:29:44,110 --> 01:29:41,090
egghead but she's also been a believer

2158
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:44,120
and you know definitely more so than I

2159
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:46,250
have I'm growing up but I think that I

2160
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:48,650
was a prophecy but growing up so then I

2161
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:50,810
got the full expansion of every

2162
01:29:55,090 --> 01:29:52,370
different type of prophecy that you know

2163
01:29:57,340 --> 01:29:55,100
that was going around but you know she's

2164
01:30:02,020 --> 01:29:57,350
one said hey stupid you know check this

2165
01:30:03,130 --> 01:30:02,030
out and and and after seeing and I

2166
01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:03,140
didn't take it really seriously at that

2167
01:30:05,919 --> 01:30:04,400
point again but I have to see a missiles

2168
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:05,929
presentation I started taking a

2169
01:30:09,310 --> 01:30:07,730
seriousness all right well this is one

2170
01:30:11,229 --> 01:30:09,320
of those things I you know I love the

2171
01:30:13,300 --> 01:30:11,239
dig and let's get it on

2172
01:30:15,130 --> 01:30:13,310
there's a big point here we could raise

2173
01:30:18,100 --> 01:30:15,140
but it has to come to our next segment

2174
01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:18,110
all right so let's just take it easy

2175
01:30:23,860 --> 01:30:21,440
let's do our due pausing right now

2176
01:30:25,660 --> 01:30:23,870
subdue diligence will cause David's

2177
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:25,670
tenet is joining us with Jeanne and

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2289
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this is really rose have I continued to

2290
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listen to in the para cast because you

2291
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will learn a great deal about the

2292
01:35:07,850 --> 01:35:02,830
paranormal

2293
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:11,420
with Jean with Chris we're talking with

2294
01:35:18,750 --> 01:35:15,130
David synod of the new jersey UFO

2295
01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:18,760
conference David what about something

2296
01:35:22,860 --> 01:35:20,800
that we're kind of leading into here I

2297
01:35:26,060 --> 01:35:22,870
think you agree from the discussion so

2298
01:35:28,530 --> 01:35:26,070
far and that is the reflective nature of

2299
01:35:31,380 --> 01:35:28,540
UFOs that they seem to reflect the

2300
01:35:33,210 --> 01:35:31,390
culture of the time your expectations at

2301
01:35:35,100 --> 01:35:33,220
the time that sort of thing but the

2302
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:35,110
strange part of that is like Kristin

2303
01:35:39,450 --> 01:35:37,330
I've talked about this because we you

2304
01:35:41,250 --> 01:35:39,460
know we hang hanging around those those

2305
01:35:42,570 --> 01:35:41,260
areas but you get throw rock art that

2306
01:35:44,270 --> 01:35:42,580
has you know flying saucers and enters

2307
01:35:47,070 --> 01:35:44,280
stuff like that all over the place so

2308
01:35:49,740 --> 01:35:47,080
unfortunately it's a shape you know the

2309
01:35:51,450 --> 01:35:49,750
flying saucer shape is something is kind

2310
01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:51,460
of universal to a lot of things so we

2311
01:35:54,540 --> 01:35:52,480
don't know if it's actually pertaining

2312
01:35:58,290 --> 01:35:54,550
to that but you know that you get enough

2313
01:35:59,970 --> 01:35:58,300
of weird stuff where enough weird stuff

2314
01:36:01,560 --> 01:35:59,980
in the sense of in the drawings how

2315
01:36:03,420 --> 01:36:01,570
they're detected that like well this

2316
01:36:04,890 --> 01:36:03,430
isn't an eye but this is an eye or this

2317
01:36:06,990 --> 01:36:04,900
isn't a boat or something like that this

2318
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:07,000
is something that's fine so whatever

2319
01:36:10,860 --> 01:36:09,070
that part of it is again there's another

2320
01:36:13,500 --> 01:36:10,870
one of those little things just sticking

2321
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:13,510
the phenomena it's the oven all all

2322
01:36:20,190 --> 01:36:17,850
these images and non attributed the

2323
01:36:21,810 --> 01:36:20,200
visual information that we can find

2324
01:36:23,850 --> 01:36:21,820
around the world from ancient times of

2325
01:36:24,330 --> 01:36:23,860
the present it's on the eye of the

2326
01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:24,340
beholder

2327
01:36:29,730 --> 01:36:27,280
I mean you supply the context within

2328
01:36:32,340 --> 01:36:29,740
which you attempt to try to identify and

2329
01:36:36,510 --> 01:36:32,350
interpret what a particular shape is for

2330
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:36,520
instance around here in the you know the

2331
01:36:44,190 --> 01:36:41,130
Mogollon Rim area we had a volcano that

2332
01:36:45,870 --> 01:36:44,200
was the last of the 200 volcanoes at the

2333
01:36:48,780 --> 01:36:45,880
San Francisco volcanic field just up

2334
01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:48,790
around Flagstaff this volcano they think

2335
01:36:56,730 --> 01:36:53,520
erupted around 1190 and you can find

2336
01:36:59,850 --> 01:36:56,740
really impressive progress of what

2337
01:37:01,710 --> 01:36:59,860
appears to be a saucer shape that has

2338
01:37:05,670 --> 01:37:01,720
lines coming out of the top and the

2339
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:05,680
bottom and I could see you know the

2340
01:37:08,820 --> 01:37:07,330
average person looking at say my god

2341
01:37:09,690 --> 01:37:08,830
that's it that's a petroglyph of a

2342
01:37:11,780 --> 01:37:09,700
flying saucer

2343
01:37:15,740 --> 01:37:11,790
but according to anthropologists and

2344
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archaeologists it's an actual

2345
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:18,140
you're drawn on the rock of the volcano

2346
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:20,730
erupting you know you have that that

2347
01:37:26,210 --> 01:37:23,010
pyramidal sort of disloyal shape of the

2348
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:26,220
mountain you have the ash coming out the

2349
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:28,110
top and you have a single lava flow

2350
01:37:31,610 --> 01:37:29,850
coming out of the bottom you know you

2351
01:37:34,700 --> 01:37:31,620
could very well look at it and interpret

2352
01:37:37,340 --> 01:37:34,710
it as a flying saucer that is beaming

2353
01:37:39,050 --> 01:37:37,350
some signal up into the cosmos and then

2354
01:37:42,260 --> 01:37:39,060
emptying the bilge or something from the

2355
01:37:43,850 --> 01:37:42,270
bottom so it's again it's all contextual

2356
01:37:46,250 --> 01:37:43,860
it's all it's all in the eye of the

2357
01:37:47,930 --> 01:37:46,260
beholder in terms of the demonic thing

2358
01:37:49,550 --> 01:37:47,940
though of Nick Redfern wrote a book

2359
01:37:51,500 --> 01:37:49,560
called final events and he talks about

2360
01:37:54,410 --> 01:37:51,510
this secretive group within the military

2361
01:37:56,270 --> 01:37:54,420
and the government that I guess he named

2362
01:37:58,490 --> 01:37:56,280
the columns elite for lack of a better

2363
01:38:01,370 --> 01:37:58,500
term but they're they've been convinced

2364
01:38:04,340 --> 01:38:01,380
since the 50s possibly even as early as

2365
01:38:06,110 --> 01:38:04,350
the mid to late 40s that all this this

2366
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:06,120
type of activity is demonic in nature

2367
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:09,450
and there according to Nick's research

2368
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:11,130
they were quite concerned about that and

2369
01:38:16,130 --> 01:38:12,570
are you familiar with that particular

2370
01:38:18,260 --> 01:38:16,140
book and yeah yeah a matter of fact I

2371
01:38:20,510 --> 01:38:18,270
actually nicked to my last time forms

2372
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:20,520
but the chuck Missler guy I was talking

2373
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:22,410
to you before yeah she speaks a little

2374
01:38:25,940 --> 01:38:24,810
bit on the Collins elite there are some

2375
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:25,950
people who actually thought that he may

2376
01:38:30,140 --> 01:38:27,090
be part of it which I doubt it very

2377
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:30,150
seriously but yeah I mean I'm familiar

2378
01:38:36,980 --> 01:38:32,370
with that whole that whole line of

2379
01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:36,990
thinking and I'm not again you go to the

2380
01:38:40,850 --> 01:38:38,490
Book of Daniel banner the end of the

2381
01:38:42,110 --> 01:38:40,860
Daniel 70 weeks prophecy we're down to

2382
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:42,120
basically the feet basically them

2383
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:43,770
somewheres around where we're at now and

2384
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:47,280
he says you know they will try to mix

2385
01:38:52,430 --> 01:38:49,890
their seed with the seed of man but but

2386
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:52,440
it won't clean so whatever we have what

2387
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:54,210
he's talking about and Daniels prophecy

2388
01:39:00,050 --> 01:38:56,850
has been pretty pretty good you know as

2389
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:00,060
far as things go as it's been excuse me

2390
01:39:05,570 --> 01:39:03,810
pretty good house up as an accuracy okay

2391
01:39:08,510 --> 01:39:05,580
so how so and what way was accurate

2392
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:08,520
let's put this if say see if in a New

2393
01:39:11,060 --> 01:39:09,690
Testament they say there's you know

2394
01:39:13,310 --> 01:39:11,070
three to four hundred years that are

2395
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:13,320
that are missing in between there but if

2396
01:39:18,260 --> 01:39:15,690
you go through Daniel Daniel tells you

2397
01:39:20,060 --> 01:39:18,270
that you know Greece is going to rise on

2398
01:39:22,690 --> 01:39:20,070
Rome in our eyes and you know they're

2399
01:39:25,220 --> 01:39:22,700
going to it's by name no he's you know

2400
01:39:26,810 --> 01:39:25,230
when I go back I'm going to have to and

2401
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:26,820
this is you know one of the messengers

2402
01:39:29,740 --> 01:39:28,370
basic same you know what

2403
01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:29,750
get done deal Mukherjee I'm gonna have

2404
01:39:35,110 --> 01:39:31,490
to go back and battle the Prince of

2405
01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:35,120
Grisha and it's fairly specific in that

2406
01:39:39,130 --> 01:39:37,760
sense but Chanyeol he fills in the gap

2407
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:39,140
that everybody seems to think there's

2408
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:41,450
dad but there's not but in that specific

2409
01:39:46,690 --> 01:39:44,330
well that exact gap is the apocrypha ax

2410
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:46,700
that's the the under Greek Bible that

2411
01:39:53,050 --> 01:39:50,960
was the Roman Catholic Church sort of

2412
01:39:56,350 --> 01:39:53,060
did away with it the book of Noah the

2413
01:39:57,700 --> 01:39:56,360
book of Peter these were the books that

2414
01:40:01,540 --> 01:39:57,710
were considered the New Testament at the

2415
01:40:04,750 --> 01:40:01,550
time of Christ well what you have is the

2416
01:40:06,610 --> 01:40:04,760
tour of the Old Testament and the first

2417
01:40:09,310 --> 01:40:06,620
translation the Septuagint was

2418
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:09,320
transferred from Hebrew to Greek because

2419
01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:10,970
it basically at that time in Hebrew was

2420
01:40:14,710 --> 01:40:13,040
like Latin today and it's kind of

2421
01:40:16,390 --> 01:40:14,720
basically just used for religious stuff

2422
01:40:18,340 --> 01:40:16,400
and the Jewish people that time one of

2423
01:40:20,350 --> 01:40:18,350
the Bible that they could they could

2424
01:40:23,140 --> 01:40:20,360
read you know and the thing is is that

2425
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:23,150
both Hebrew and Greek are both have

2426
01:40:27,460 --> 01:40:25,370
tatak they're they have multiple

2427
01:40:28,930 --> 01:40:27,470
meanings for words so you know when

2428
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:28,940
you're talking love in Greek it's five

2429
01:40:32,230 --> 01:40:30,290
different there's five different types

2430
01:40:35,830 --> 01:40:32,240
of love so the translation is very

2431
01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:35,840
specific when most scholars looking for

2432
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:37,760
exactly what what the Torah said in

2433
01:40:42,820 --> 01:40:40,490
those days are looking at the Septuagint

2434
01:40:46,090 --> 01:40:42,830
because it gives you a precise

2435
01:40:47,470 --> 01:40:46,100
translation and you realize as least as

2436
01:40:49,450 --> 01:40:47,480
far as translations because there's only

2437
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:49,460
been three really major translation and

2438
01:40:52,690 --> 01:40:51,170
that's from Hebrew to Greek from Greek

2439
01:40:54,970 --> 01:40:52,700
to Latin and competant to English and

2440
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:54,980
you know the first Spanish and other

2441
01:40:58,600 --> 01:40:57,170
stuff but a lot of that language is

2442
01:40:59,560 --> 01:40:58,610
derived and people kind of have a grip

2443
01:41:01,330 --> 01:40:59,570
you know Spanish people know how to

2444
01:41:04,060 --> 01:41:01,340
speak Italian or understand Italian so

2445
01:41:06,220 --> 01:41:04,070
but by and large that they're pretty

2446
01:41:09,550 --> 01:41:06,230
they're all solid the only differential

2447
01:41:11,470 --> 01:41:09,560
is that the older they are the more the

2448
01:41:14,830 --> 01:41:11,480
less soft they are weak they soften them

2449
01:41:16,660 --> 01:41:14,840
up as you know they just come up and you

2450
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:16,670
know when they talk about you know Jesus

2451
01:41:20,050 --> 01:41:18,290
in the Septuagint basically he'd been

2452
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:20,060
beaten so badly that by time you hit the

2453
01:41:23,140 --> 01:41:21,410
cross it you can even tell you as a

2454
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:23,150
human being you know you get the King

2455
01:41:27,190 --> 01:41:25,730
James and it was like his visit was so

2456
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:27,200
marred you could not tell he was a son

2457
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:29,930
of man you know big differential but you

2458
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:31,850
know there cupcaking it but what you

2459
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:33,890
also realized within that whole realm is

2460
01:41:39,300 --> 01:41:36,770
that there one spot that actually allows

2461
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:39,310
you to understand the entire narrative

2462
01:41:44,620 --> 01:41:42,110
beginning then it's one area

2463
01:41:46,990 --> 01:41:44,630
the preachers usually leave out or don't

2464
01:41:49,180 --> 01:41:47,000
want to touch because it's too too weird

2465
01:41:52,330 --> 01:41:49,190
that's Genesis section of some these

2466
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:52,340
beings come out from their state refers

2467
01:41:56,260 --> 01:41:54,290
to state a place you know the yoga

2468
01:41:58,180 --> 01:41:56,270
terraeum in Greek the place that we all

2469
01:42:01,540 --> 01:41:58,190
along to be to and they come down and

2470
01:42:03,940 --> 01:42:01,550
they mate with the women and create

2471
01:42:07,090 --> 01:42:03,950
these things and these things are key

2472
01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:07,100
God pays in and Greek and it does sound

2473
01:42:10,750 --> 01:42:08,480
like Giants but what it actually means

2474
01:42:12,730 --> 01:42:10,760
is Earthborn but they actually happen to

2475
01:42:15,790 --> 01:42:12,740
be Giants but then you have the Greeks

2476
01:42:17,140 --> 01:42:15,800
the Greeks mythos is picking up because

2477
01:42:18,490 --> 01:42:17,150
there was evidently there was a time

2478
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:18,500
when whatever this stuff was going on

2479
01:42:23,410 --> 01:42:20,810
you know these civilizations knew it was

2480
01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:23,420
going on but the thing is that you start

2481
01:42:26,620 --> 01:42:24,800
to understand what's going on to the

2482
01:42:28,570 --> 01:42:26,630
rest of the text because this stuff is

2483
01:42:30,220 --> 01:42:28,580
popping up through the rest of the text

2484
01:42:31,630 --> 01:42:30,230
and then you stay I mean they're

2485
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:31,640
basically seeing what we're seeing in

2486
01:42:35,020 --> 01:42:33,530
the sky their experience the same weird

2487
01:42:36,910 --> 01:42:35,030
stuff except they seem to know who it is

2488
01:42:38,140 --> 01:42:36,920
and what they're up to

2489
01:42:39,790 --> 01:42:38,150
that's your differential whether you

2490
01:42:41,380 --> 01:42:39,800
want to buy into that narrative you know

2491
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:41,390
that's entirely up to you and I usually

2492
01:42:45,070 --> 01:42:42,800
tell people most like if this is what

2493
01:42:46,480 --> 01:42:45,080
you want to look into I'm not saying you

2494
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:46,490
have to buy into it they should be aware

2495
01:42:50,590 --> 01:42:48,770
of it well if that's the case then

2496
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:50,600
someone having an experience maybe

2497
01:42:56,050 --> 01:42:54,050
attracting some sort of evil intent be

2498
01:43:00,220 --> 01:42:56,060
opening themselves up to some sort of

2499
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:00,230
demonic force energy intelligence that

2500
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:01,850
doesn't quite make sense to me because

2501
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:04,970
there's such a wide brain range in cross

2502
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:08,650
section of the culture that has

2503
01:43:14,340 --> 01:43:11,810
inexplicable events I mean priests in

2504
01:43:16,090 --> 01:43:14,350
the South Pacific the Pacific have had

2505
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:16,100
incredible the up-close-and-personal

2506
01:43:22,030 --> 01:43:19,520
daylight sightings we have people that

2507
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:22,040
have been venerated in their communities

2508
01:43:26,590 --> 01:43:24,770
in their cultures have had close

2509
01:43:29,070 --> 01:43:26,600
encounters for instance are they

2510
01:43:32,230 --> 01:43:29,080
attracting evil is there some sort of

2511
01:43:34,030 --> 01:43:32,240
equation that we could look at to Kris I

2512
01:43:37,810 --> 01:43:34,040
mean I don't know if you follow like UFO

2513
01:43:39,130 --> 01:43:37,820
hundred UFO has ghost hunters and it's

2514
01:43:41,410 --> 01:43:39,140
kind of petered out I have to admit now

2515
01:43:44,440 --> 01:43:41,420
but initially I was watching all those

2516
01:43:47,860 --> 01:43:44,450
guys on Facebook all those groups and we

2517
01:43:50,020 --> 01:43:47,870
understand that within weather were

2518
01:43:52,990 --> 01:43:50,030
tribes with the shaman or whoever the

2519
01:43:55,420 --> 01:43:53,000
priests of the churches us they there's

2520
01:43:55,930 --> 01:43:55,430
a reason for the ceremony and these guys

2521
01:43:57,610 --> 01:43:55,940
actually

2522
01:43:59,050 --> 01:43:57,620
we'll go in and you'll watch them to

2523
01:44:00,400 --> 01:43:59,060
vote investigation will come back home

2524
01:44:02,380 --> 01:44:00,410
and we'll drag whatever it was Internet

2525
01:44:03,459 --> 01:44:02,390
investigation back home with them now

2526
01:44:04,810 --> 01:44:03,469
they're getting all the weird stuff and

2527
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:04,820
stuff in their house and they don't

2528
01:44:07,959 --> 01:44:06,530
realize I said I'll say did you do a

2529
01:44:09,790 --> 01:44:07,969
closing ceremony and they'll be like

2530
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:09,800
what's that I'm just like you know when

2531
01:44:12,490 --> 01:44:11,330
you get done with a house and it's like

2532
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:12,500
you don't want that stuff coming back to

2533
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:14,330
you and it's it could be psychosomatic

2534
01:44:18,010 --> 01:44:16,489
but evidently the pair of psychologists

2535
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:18,020
say no that's valid you know that's

2536
01:44:22,090 --> 01:44:20,449
there's a reason for that and it does

2537
01:44:24,580 --> 01:44:22,100
seem to put you know keep some things

2538
01:44:27,580 --> 01:44:24,590
where they need to be picking up but

2539
01:44:28,930 --> 01:44:27,590
accidentally edge hikers okay but it's

2540
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:28,940
funny to watch that but the inner is

2541
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:30,170
like you're just waiting for one of

2542
01:44:33,459 --> 01:44:31,250
these guys I'd like a really bad

2543
01:44:34,930 --> 01:44:33,469
incident because it's not you know

2544
01:44:35,979 --> 01:44:34,940
people think you watch those hunters on

2545
01:44:37,870 --> 01:44:35,989
television and that's what you're doing

2546
01:44:39,340 --> 01:44:37,880
it's like that's the reality folks I

2547
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:39,350
mean you you've got to be careful out

2548
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:41,920
there there is stuff out there yeah I

2549
01:44:46,660 --> 01:44:44,690
I've been in a situation with rosemary

2550
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:46,670
ellen guiley actually of all people we

2551
01:44:54,930 --> 01:44:50,480
and she's my grass at 11:00 we crashed a

2552
01:44:58,300 --> 01:44:54,940
portal spot in the San Luis Valley and

2553
01:44:59,890 --> 01:44:58,310
we had a really riveting experience up

2554
01:45:01,900 --> 01:44:59,900
close and personal but something that

2555
01:45:04,450 --> 01:45:01,910
was just barely invisible kind of

2556
01:45:07,870 --> 01:45:04,460
manifest around us and we split and then

2557
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:07,880
had you know pot jump across a young

2558
01:45:11,860 --> 01:45:10,130
from the window jump off and land in the

2559
01:45:13,689 --> 01:45:11,870
middle of the floor in an impossible

2560
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:13,699
manner right when she said I hope it

2561
01:45:18,580 --> 01:45:16,880
didn't follow us back here before we got

2562
01:45:20,890 --> 01:45:18,590
followed too closely we gotta do this

2563
01:45:27,490 --> 01:45:20,900
break with Jeanne and with Chris you're

2564
01:45:29,979 --> 01:45:27,500
in the para cast you are listening to

2565
01:45:32,290 --> 01:45:29,989
GCN probably sponsored by unseen now

2566
01:45:37,030 --> 01:45:32,300
calm lock down your digital life at

2567
01:45:39,459 --> 01:45:37,040
unseen now calm this is GC n we've been

2568
01:45:41,620 --> 01:45:39,469
patiently waiting waiting while you try

2569
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:41,630
to ignore us waiting while you acted

2570
01:45:46,780 --> 01:45:43,730
like we didn't exist waiting for our

2571
01:45:50,709 --> 01:45:46,790
chance to be taken seriously the wait is

2572
01:45:52,959 --> 01:45:50,719
over GC n is available 24/7 at GC and

2573
01:45:54,910 --> 01:45:52,969
live.com navigate through news from your

2574
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:54,920
favorite host and download archive to

2575
01:45:59,770 --> 01:45:57,170
pass yo movie m on your smartphone or

2576
01:46:02,049 --> 01:45:59,780
tablet 50 GC and live.com for

2577
01:46:04,689 --> 01:46:02,059
enact that in live streaming em I'm not

2578
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:04,699
calm the future rubs off radio now at

2579
01:46:08,859 --> 01:46:06,770
your fingertips we the people grow

2580
01:46:10,330 --> 01:46:08,869
cotton weave fabric engraving can bed

2581
01:46:11,919 --> 01:46:10,340
strips and fibers to protect from

2582
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:11,929
counterfeit and carding to a private

2583
01:46:15,490 --> 01:46:13,760
bank having a lead back at interest

2584
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:15,500
forcing taxes to service debt this

2585
01:46:18,790 --> 01:46:17,360
capitalism was Jefferson correct when

2586
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:18,800
stating a central bank issuing the

2587
01:46:21,580 --> 01:46:20,449
public currency is a greater menace to

2588
01:46:23,290 --> 01:46:21,590
the liberties of the people than a

2589
01:46:24,729 --> 01:46:23,300
standing army hi Ted Anderson I'm

2590
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:24,739
placing a free silver dollar in a book

2591
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:26,570
that explains our monetary system call

2592
01:46:33,279 --> 01:46:30,110
for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

2593
01:46:39,129 --> 01:46:33,289
to understand the system call 866 to 237

2594
01:46:40,990 --> 01:46:39,139
that's 800 686 to 237 don't complain

2595
01:46:42,850 --> 01:46:41,000
about your cable bill going up and up

2596
01:46:44,589 --> 01:46:42,860
and I'll do something about it

2597
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:44,599
grab a pencil and jot down this special

2598
01:46:50,350 --> 01:46:48,650
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2599
01:46:53,140 --> 01:46:50,360
rates go up the better digital satellite

2600
01:46:54,790 --> 01:46:53,150
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2601
01:46:57,370 --> 01:46:54,800
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2602
01:47:00,790 --> 01:46:57,380
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2603
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2604
01:47:04,660 --> 01:47:02,989
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2605
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2606
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2607
01:47:12,189 --> 01:47:09,770
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2608
01:47:13,959 --> 01:47:12,199
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2609
01:47:16,959 --> 01:47:13,969
your favorite shows pause and rewind

2610
01:47:19,870 --> 01:47:16,969
live TV even skip the commercials watch

2611
01:47:20,740 --> 01:47:19,880
local channels do at just $19.99 what

2612
01:47:22,689 --> 01:47:20,750
are you waiting for

2613
01:47:28,359 --> 01:47:22,699
pull out your major credit or debit card

2614
01:47:30,939 --> 01:47:28,369
call 185 905 my TV 180 55 905 my TV say

2615
01:47:39,980 --> 01:47:30,949
goodbye to the Cable Guy cut costs and

2616
01:47:47,850 --> 01:47:44,150
[Applause]

2617
01:47:52,190 --> 01:47:47,860
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2618
01:48:00,000 --> 01:47:52,200
standard of paranormal radio and now

2619
01:48:03,660 --> 01:48:00,010
here's Jane Steinberg are we being

2620
01:48:05,540 --> 01:48:03,670
followed just too closely what is behind

2621
01:48:08,550 --> 01:48:05,550
that curtain

2622
01:48:09,480 --> 01:48:08,560
David Stinnett can you tell us what's

2623
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:09,490
behind the curtain

2624
01:48:13,410 --> 01:48:10,690
sounds like there's so much deception

2625
01:48:16,110 --> 01:48:13,420
going on the UFO field how do you even

2626
01:48:18,690 --> 01:48:16,120
get a handle on the real event if there

2627
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:18,700
is a real event to be found it's kind of

2628
01:48:22,050 --> 01:48:20,410
like we're saying before is that you you

2629
01:48:23,730 --> 01:48:22,060
know the work doesn't come to you you

2630
01:48:25,440 --> 01:48:23,740
kind of have to and we're fortunate now

2631
01:48:27,570 --> 01:48:25,450
because when an area gets hot now it

2632
01:48:29,070 --> 01:48:27,580
goes viable pretty quickly and if it's

2633
01:48:31,260 --> 01:48:29,080
so much that's fairly local you can get

2634
01:48:33,150 --> 01:48:31,270
to it but I mean you have to go there

2635
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:33,160
and you have to do the work yourself and

2636
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:35,170
I started out with a lot of Kehoe stuff

2637
01:48:39,060 --> 01:48:37,330
I would use his you know versions of

2638
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:39,070
stuff that dating after a number of

2639
01:48:42,930 --> 01:48:40,930
years you know what the questions I

2640
01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:42,940
asked and now I would study stuff like

2641
01:48:46,740 --> 01:48:44,560
you know body language and micro

2642
01:48:48,630 --> 01:48:46,750
expressions to see you know how people

2643
01:48:49,980 --> 01:48:48,640
are but with or what the body's telling

2644
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:49,990
me when they're telling me something

2645
01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:52,690
else and that's been valuable because

2646
01:48:58,380 --> 01:48:55,600
there's been situations where guys are

2647
01:49:00,720 --> 01:48:58,390
you know you'll get people who want to

2648
01:49:01,860 --> 01:49:00,730
fund you let's say and you can pretty

2649
01:49:04,830 --> 01:49:01,870
much pick off where they're coming from

2650
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:04,840
because just by what their body sings

2651
01:49:08,490 --> 01:49:06,370
bows to what their mouths are sing so

2652
01:49:11,610 --> 01:49:08,500
you can take that into the field and pop

2653
01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:11,620
the witnesses and and yeah we're doing

2654
01:49:15,330 --> 01:49:13,450
all the right things and pretty much

2655
01:49:18,180 --> 01:49:15,340
tell it that you know for series about

2656
01:49:20,460 --> 01:49:18,190
what they saw even then a person can

2657
01:49:22,820 --> 01:49:20,470
accurately describe what they saw but

2658
01:49:28,770 --> 01:49:22,830
how you do you know that's what they saw

2659
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:28,780
you don't I mean when I had was like a

2660
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:32,890
Zen koan gene of course and the thing is

2661
01:49:36,420 --> 01:49:35,170
that you know you can get at you to be

2662
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:36,430
out there with a bunch of people and

2663
01:49:40,020 --> 01:49:37,930
there's been numerous times where that's

2664
01:49:42,090 --> 01:49:40,030
the situation and everybody's filming it

2665
01:49:43,710 --> 01:49:42,100
so you're not filming a hallucinate

2666
01:49:46,650 --> 01:49:43,720
can't film a hallucination everybody's

2667
01:49:48,930 --> 01:49:46,660
witnessing it and there are times many

2668
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:48,940
times where whatever it is it seems to

2669
01:49:52,170 --> 01:49:50,410
have some sort of Battelle intelligence

2670
01:49:54,150 --> 01:49:52,180
I mean you can write them off as plasma

2671
01:49:57,390 --> 01:49:54,160
balls and they very well may be for all

2672
01:49:59,550 --> 01:49:57,400
on 10 purposes but um there are times

2673
01:50:02,370 --> 01:49:59,560
when they seem to you know they avoid

2674
01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:02,380
where you're at you know we're I think

2675
01:50:05,010 --> 01:50:03,910
Ted Phillips even has a pretty good

2676
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:05,020
piece of film where those little balls

2677
01:50:11,670 --> 01:50:08,080
or are swarming the cameras yeah but

2678
01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:11,680
there's situations where you seem to get

2679
01:50:15,210 --> 01:50:14,110
a feeling that they're aware of you yeah

2680
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:15,220
the other part of that now I'm

2681
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:17,650
christmasing this but every now and then

2682
01:50:22,500 --> 01:50:20,080
you know in the earlier days I would

2683
01:50:24,060 --> 01:50:22,510
take girls so hot spot and I would get

2684
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:24,070
one of three reactions you get kind of

2685
01:50:28,590 --> 01:50:26,890
the look looky-loo like okay you'll get

2686
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:28,600
the girls that are like I would leave

2687
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:30,250
and I want to leave now and they're

2688
01:50:33,570 --> 01:50:32,650
scared and they went out and you get the

2689
01:50:34,890 --> 01:50:33,580
other ones that will start crying

2690
01:50:36,300 --> 01:50:34,900
someone will hit the ground a fetal

2691
01:50:38,460 --> 01:50:36,310
position but they're just like

2692
01:50:40,410 --> 01:50:38,470
overwhelmed and you don't I'm not

2693
01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:40,420
sensing any of that in my own personal

2694
01:50:43,770 --> 01:50:42,310
thing and I'm and I think it takes it

2695
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:43,780
you don't know how we don't know really

2696
01:50:48,270 --> 01:50:46,090
have a grip on how the mind deals with

2697
01:50:50,730 --> 01:50:48,280
stuff or how things influence the mind I

2698
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:50,740
mean we do but in this case I'm not

2699
01:50:54,300 --> 01:50:52,930
entirely sure because and there'll be a

2700
01:50:55,620 --> 01:50:54,310
bunch of different people there but

2701
01:50:57,900 --> 01:50:55,630
everybody had will have a different

2702
01:51:00,420 --> 01:50:57,910
reaction to it you know and that's an

2703
01:51:02,010 --> 01:51:00,430
interesting aspect to the field so I'm

2704
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:02,020
not sure even more of the place that but

2705
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:05,110
well you know let's go with the theory

2706
01:51:08,820 --> 01:51:07,210
that these things are a closed system

2707
01:51:11,550 --> 01:51:08,830
let's say because if we're talking about

2708
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:11,560
something demonic for instance it

2709
01:51:17,940 --> 01:51:13,690
indicates something that's been homespun

2710
01:51:20,250 --> 01:51:17,950
to some degree in that's kind of a bit

2711
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:20,260
of a generalization but I do I do think

2712
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:22,960
you would agree that these things have

2713
01:51:26,580 --> 01:51:24,400
been around for a long time they don't

2714
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:26,590
they may be more terrestrial than we are

2715
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:28,810
in that sense but what is their agenda

2716
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:31,450
if it's demonic and it's evil and it's

2717
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:34,000
bad what could possibly be the agenda

2718
01:51:39,690 --> 01:51:37,570
that doesn't conform with the standard

2719
01:51:42,750 --> 01:51:39,700
you Falah djegal thinking of they're

2720
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:42,760
aliens of govern genetic material and

2721
01:51:47,310 --> 01:51:44,800
hybridizing their race and all these

2722
01:51:49,440 --> 01:51:47,320
assumptions that you find everywhere in

2723
01:51:51,810 --> 01:51:49,450
the UFO field what would be the possible

2724
01:51:53,820 --> 01:51:51,820
agenda I've taught you two different

2725
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:53,830
things that you want one is that

2726
01:51:58,560 --> 01:51:55,840
American scientific I think is back in

2727
01:52:00,540 --> 01:51:58,570
2006 maybe 2009 but they came out with

2728
01:52:02,430 --> 01:52:00,550
an article called the changing of the

2729
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:02,440
constants evidently to find that they're

2730
01:52:07,339 --> 01:52:03,730
cut the constants of physics are

2731
01:52:08,959 --> 01:52:07,349
changing and in their own words they say

2732
01:52:10,609 --> 01:52:08,969
since the physics are changing and we

2733
01:52:13,969 --> 01:52:10,619
believe they are that mean to our

2734
01:52:16,279 --> 01:52:13,979
reality is put a shadow of a larger

2735
01:52:17,540 --> 01:52:16,289
reality which is basically if it when I

2736
01:52:18,739 --> 01:52:17,550
go back to these texts because again

2737
01:52:20,270 --> 01:52:18,749
this is what these texts are saying the

2738
01:52:22,099 --> 01:52:20,280
whole time what a lot of people don't

2739
01:52:23,689 --> 01:52:22,109
know that and I've asked numerous

2740
01:52:25,339 --> 01:52:23,699
physicists like and I could different

2741
01:52:28,429 --> 01:52:25,349
answers I'm making sure what to think on

2742
01:52:30,259 --> 01:52:28,439
this one but they in measuring the speed

2743
01:52:33,619 --> 01:52:30,269
of light or the velocity of light and

2744
01:52:35,509 --> 01:52:33,629
they found that it's slowing down the

2745
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:35,519
previous measurement it falls out

2746
01:52:40,219 --> 01:52:37,530
outside into the preview previous

2747
01:52:42,259 --> 01:52:40,229
measurement so what does that mean that

2748
01:52:43,969 --> 01:52:42,269
speed of light is slowing down to the

2749
01:52:46,219 --> 01:52:43,979
speed of light is a constant like equals

2750
01:52:47,989 --> 01:52:46,229
mc-squared but see isn't a constant then

2751
01:52:51,139 --> 01:52:47,999
where are we at but what seems to be

2752
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:51,149
happening is that like we seem to be in

2753
01:52:54,709 --> 01:52:52,530
some sort of like state of flux to a

2754
01:52:57,319 --> 01:52:54,719
certain extent because at this point in

2755
01:52:59,959 --> 01:52:57,329
the game they know you know Max Planck

2756
01:53:02,599 --> 01:52:59,969
length you know 10 to the 33rd negative

2757
01:53:04,939 --> 01:53:02,609
33rd at that point you can't get any

2758
01:53:08,179 --> 01:53:04,949
smaller anything smaller beyond that is

2759
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:08,189
everywhere at the same time because it's

2760
01:53:12,020 --> 01:53:10,169
not local which is something you have to

2761
01:53:14,810 --> 01:53:12,030
wrap your head around there and the

2762
01:53:16,729 --> 01:53:14,820
other part of this that on the macrocosm

2763
01:53:19,339 --> 01:53:16,739
scale that they realized that there's an

2764
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:19,349
end there too so within those realms

2765
01:53:23,989 --> 01:53:21,449
Chris said it you know closed you know

2766
01:53:25,429 --> 01:53:23,999
closed loop here closed operation we

2767
01:53:27,919 --> 01:53:25,439
don't know exactly what we're dealing

2768
01:53:30,379 --> 01:53:27,929
with we don't know my hands hitting the

2769
01:53:32,270 --> 01:53:30,389
desk it's it's the atoms hitting the

2770
01:53:34,219 --> 01:53:32,280
atoms of the desk but I mean if when you

2771
01:53:37,729 --> 01:53:34,229
look at atom you realize that most of

2772
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:37,739
the space within an atom is is space so

2773
01:53:42,409 --> 01:53:40,800
by those definitions most of us isn't

2774
01:53:46,489 --> 01:53:42,419
really here most of every all of us

2775
01:53:48,619 --> 01:53:46,499
everything around us is a space so again

2776
01:53:50,119 --> 01:53:48,629
we're perceiving it in the way our mind

2777
01:53:53,089 --> 01:53:50,129
is allowing it to perceive it in the way

2778
01:53:55,399 --> 01:53:53,099
and I think for a reason because there's

2779
01:53:58,369 --> 01:53:55,409
a bigger dance going on there's a bigger

2780
01:54:00,770 --> 01:53:58,379
agenda in play and yeah you may have

2781
01:54:03,819 --> 01:54:00,780
those Illuminati agendas and those type

2782
01:54:06,199 --> 01:54:03,829
of guys and the elite and stuff like

2783
01:54:08,540 --> 01:54:06,209
you're talking about something that that

2784
01:54:11,229 --> 01:54:08,550
is being delineate it into positive and

2785
01:54:14,179 --> 01:54:11,239
negative good or bad good versus evil

2786
01:54:16,129 --> 01:54:14,189
any time you use the word demonic you

2787
01:54:17,089 --> 01:54:16,139
you have a knee-jerk assumption that

2788
01:54:20,050 --> 01:54:17,099
you're dealing with something that's

2789
01:54:23,890 --> 01:54:20,060
negative and has ill intent

2790
01:54:25,210 --> 01:54:23,900
so I'm not sure how the plants do yeah I

2791
01:54:26,710 --> 01:54:25,220
don't necessarily agree with that I mean

2792
01:54:29,590 --> 01:54:26,720
I understand what you're saying but I

2793
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:29,600
don't even in even in the ancient

2794
01:54:34,900 --> 01:54:31,570
literature those good guys you know and

2795
01:54:37,330 --> 01:54:34,910
what do you come in 2012 Branson

2796
01:54:38,710 --> 01:54:37,340
Missouri had a prophecy conference and I

2797
01:54:41,410 --> 01:54:38,720
had all the guys that I usually follow

2798
01:54:43,540 --> 01:54:41,420
they're honestly a half that conference

2799
01:54:45,460 --> 01:54:43,550
was on UFOs and they had and they had a

2800
01:54:47,590 --> 01:54:45,470
better grip on it and we did and I mean

2801
01:54:49,330 --> 01:54:47,600
it was not we necessarily the UFO

2802
01:54:51,460 --> 01:54:49,340
community but I mean they were really

2803
01:54:54,370 --> 01:54:51,470
sussing to stuff out but Gary Stearman

2804
01:54:56,110 --> 01:54:54,380
who family made Stearman aircraft I know

2805
01:54:59,920 --> 01:54:56,120
my mom used to ply some of his old

2806
01:55:03,040 --> 01:54:59,930
biplanes and those type of things but he

2807
01:55:05,740 --> 01:55:03,050
gets his first account of a UFO flying

2808
01:55:06,940 --> 01:55:05,750
saucer coming off his wing and it was

2809
01:55:08,260 --> 01:55:06,950
funny because he wasn't you know he

2810
01:55:10,990 --> 01:55:08,270
wasn't a Christian guy then he was a

2811
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:11,000
real flying guy pilot and he gives us

2812
01:55:16,630 --> 01:55:14,210
account and basically as he's going in

2813
01:55:18,090 --> 01:55:16,640
to Lubbock Texas is generator light goes

2814
01:55:20,740 --> 01:55:18,100
off so he has to shut down all of his

2815
01:55:22,330 --> 01:55:20,750
instrumentation he hears you look to

2816
01:55:26,290 --> 01:55:22,340
your left you'll see a UFO and he laughs

2817
01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:26,300
and then he realized hears it again and

2818
01:55:29,650 --> 01:55:27,920
then he realizes that he all this

2819
01:55:30,850 --> 01:55:29,660
instrumentations off so he looks over

2820
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:30,860
and they're interesting parts off his

2821
01:55:36,910 --> 01:55:33,770
wing well gary has a missing time thing

2822
01:55:39,310 --> 01:55:36,920
within that aspect but what he found out

2823
01:55:41,230 --> 01:55:39,320
was is that the guys in the shop said

2824
01:55:43,060 --> 01:55:41,240
would you do to our plane gary says I've

2825
01:55:45,550 --> 01:55:43,070
only got ten hours on it and they're

2826
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:45,560
like the generator calcining a generator

2827
01:55:48,700 --> 01:55:46,730
belt is sitting at the bottom of the

2828
01:55:50,650 --> 01:55:48,710
cowl there's like there's no way those

2829
01:55:52,690 --> 01:55:50,660
pulleys are calibrated there's no way

2830
01:55:54,370 --> 01:55:52,700
they could come off them so you know

2831
01:55:56,410 --> 01:55:54,380
Gary thinks of whatever that was was

2832
01:55:58,530 --> 01:55:56,420
looking after him on his foot on his way

2833
01:56:01,060 --> 01:55:58,540
in evidently he had missing time and

2834
01:56:03,130 --> 01:56:01,070
evidently once you know Gary found Jesus

2835
01:56:05,140 --> 01:56:03,140
evidently and and all his books are like

2836
01:56:07,210 --> 01:56:05,150
you know time travelers of the Bible you

2837
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:07,220
know he's caught in that whole

2838
01:56:13,090 --> 01:56:10,000
time-traveling type thing but yeah

2839
01:56:16,540 --> 01:56:13,100
there's no reason why they can't be good

2840
01:56:18,580 --> 01:56:16,550
I think you have to find a way of

2841
01:56:20,980 --> 01:56:18,590
discernment you know what's who's who

2842
01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:20,990
okay okay so so we're talking angels and

2843
01:56:28,450 --> 01:56:24,800
demons then and use the Judeo lore the

2844
01:56:31,570 --> 01:56:28,460
Christian vernacular all kind of work if

2845
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:31,580
the good guys will be bad guys um just

2846
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:33,290
some stuff so there's a war over

2847
01:56:37,930 --> 01:56:35,930
our soul is what I'm hearing here like

2848
01:56:41,470 --> 01:56:37,940
the Khans elite said that they're the

2849
01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:41,480
demonic agenda is harvesting souls for

2850
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:44,450
some for some purpose unstated for all I

2851
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:46,610
know Krista could be you know I'm not

2852
01:56:53,140 --> 01:56:49,370
going to I don't really dealing in I

2853
01:56:55,750 --> 01:56:53,150
like absolutes but it is or it isn't and

2854
01:56:57,700 --> 01:56:55,760
this thing and there's no no way to tell

2855
01:56:59,800 --> 01:56:57,710
I mean unless things start getting like

2856
01:57:01,960 --> 01:56:59,810
really hairy woods you know most of us

2857
01:57:03,310 --> 01:57:01,970
pretty much expect anyway but you know

2858
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:03,320
at this point some people think we

2859
01:57:06,490 --> 01:57:05,090
already have reach the point of

2860
01:57:09,460 --> 01:57:06,500
no-return that things are just getting

2861
01:57:12,820 --> 01:57:09,470
worse and worse we can cite those recent

2862
01:57:14,620 --> 01:57:12,830
terrorist episodes in Paris as examples

2863
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:14,630
of what this sort of thing is all about

2864
01:57:20,380 --> 01:57:17,210
and maybe we should just all give it up

2865
01:57:23,380 --> 01:57:20,390
or hope that et will come down to save

2866
01:57:25,300 --> 01:57:23,390
us rather than to harm us David Stinnett

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2978
02:02:37,409 --> 02:02:35,169
conference Chris oh I'm just trying to

2979
02:02:40,829 --> 02:02:37,419
wrap my head around this I'm looking at

2980
02:02:43,619 --> 02:02:40,839
this there's got to be some at some

2981
02:02:48,809 --> 02:02:43,629
level there's got to be some motivation

2982
02:02:52,139 --> 02:02:48,819
there has to be some agenda there has to

2983
02:02:54,029 --> 02:02:52,149
be somebody this isn't all just uh you

2984
02:02:56,699 --> 02:02:54,039
know tricksters running around doing

2985
02:02:59,069 --> 02:02:56,709
things inexplicable things are showing

2986
02:03:01,589 --> 02:02:59,079
up for grabs lutely no reason at all i

2987
02:03:06,239 --> 02:03:01,599
have a hard time wrapping my head around

2988
02:03:09,149 --> 02:03:06,249
that why go to all the trouble to do to

2989
02:03:11,670 --> 02:03:09,159
show up for thousands of years possibly

2990
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:11,680
to millions of people

2991
02:03:16,470 --> 02:03:14,170
just to show up I mean there's got to be

2992
02:03:17,790 --> 02:03:16,480
some sort of endgame going on here

2993
02:03:21,450 --> 02:03:17,800
there's got to be some sort of agenda

2994
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:21,460
some sort of of motivation in my mind I

2995
02:03:27,210 --> 02:03:25,450
this all can't just be a trickster ism

2996
02:03:29,820 --> 02:03:27,220
there's got to be something something

2997
02:03:30,900 --> 02:03:29,830
underlying this and you know I'm trying

2998
02:03:32,490 --> 02:03:30,910
to wrap my head around that

2999
02:03:34,260 --> 02:03:32,500
it's tough Chris I mean this place is

3000
02:03:36,270 --> 02:03:34,270
there's no waiter this is the part where

3001
02:03:38,190 --> 02:03:36,280
we don't get an absolute you're we're

3002
02:03:39,690 --> 02:03:38,200
talking about absolutes before and you

3003
02:03:41,190 --> 02:03:39,700
know like them and to certain extent

3004
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:41,200
yeah I like them I like know whether

3005
02:03:44,670 --> 02:03:42,490
things are right or wrong or this or

3006
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:44,680
that but in this particular case and I'm

3007
02:03:49,410 --> 02:03:46,690
gonna have to side on on your end of

3008
02:03:51,690 --> 02:03:49,420
things I mean we it will pertain to your

3009
02:03:53,940 --> 02:03:51,700
worldview and that's that's what I'm

3010
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:53,950
certain of that wherever your head's at

3011
02:03:58,980 --> 02:03:56,410
that's how your you're going to perceive

3012
02:04:01,290 --> 02:03:58,990
it and I think the reality behind that

3013
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:01,300
is is that somebody's got to be right

3014
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:03,130
and everybody else has to be wrong I'm

3015
02:04:06,750 --> 02:04:04,690
not really I'm not sure who that is

3016
02:04:09,090 --> 02:04:06,760
again it's from your particular you know

3017
02:04:13,410 --> 02:04:09,100
worldview but again we know something's

3018
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:13,420
going on why for whose purpose yeah why

3019
02:04:18,270 --> 02:04:15,850
indeed this is the sixty-four million

3020
02:04:19,950 --> 02:04:18,280
dollar question but you have to have the

3021
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:19,960
rest of the community has to get up to

3022
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:21,730
speed here you know to this point

3023
02:04:27,420 --> 02:04:24,250
because it's a psyche you can look at

3024
02:04:28,860 --> 02:04:27,430
the stuff nowadays again know and like

3025
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:28,870
the other day and I've seen these before

3026
02:04:34,260 --> 02:04:31,690
so you get a real far-off flight in the

3027
02:04:35,850 --> 02:04:34,270
future in the distance we can zoom zoom

3028
02:04:38,970 --> 02:04:35,860
right up in you max zoom on this thing

3029
02:04:40,140 --> 02:04:38,980
it's swirling it's colorful and people

3030
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:40,150
put those out it's like you know aliens

3031
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:42,730
and they got faces in them and and you

3032
02:04:45,900 --> 02:04:43,930
know they're I mean like the whole

3033
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:45,910
gambit I was like guys I'm just like

3034
02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:48,130
everybody on here thumbs out in the

3035
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:49,210
field for crying out loud

3036
02:04:53,310 --> 02:04:51,490
and we know you should know what this is

3037
02:04:54,510 --> 02:04:53,320
I'm just like I've done this with my

3038
02:04:56,850 --> 02:04:54,520
camera hundred million times trying to

3039
02:04:58,590 --> 02:04:56,860
dial in on the UFO and you know you dial

3040
02:05:01,470 --> 02:04:58,600
in on the starred and get some crazy

3041
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:01,480
stuff but it's just like man initial fee

3042
02:05:06,630 --> 02:05:04,090
is called bad focus yeah and it is

3043
02:05:08,340 --> 02:05:06,640
people who should know better but you

3044
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:08,350
don't know really who's in certain

3045
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:10,090
groups and you know the people who are

3046
02:05:15,210 --> 02:05:11,920
but you're always surprise to people who

3047
02:05:17,220 --> 02:05:15,220
are who are picking it up you know well

3048
02:05:19,260 --> 02:05:17,230
you mentioned you went to this prophets

3049
02:05:21,180 --> 02:05:19,270
conference in Branson and then they had

3050
02:05:23,460 --> 02:05:21,190
a much better handle on it than we then

3051
02:05:25,020 --> 02:05:23,470
the thief illogical community once you

3052
02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:25,030
kind of dress that a little bit

3053
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:27,570
give us an idea of where they're on

3054
02:05:32,549 --> 02:05:30,730
track and the rest of the field is not I

3055
02:05:36,330 --> 02:05:32,559
think they're on track in the census

3056
02:05:38,189 --> 02:05:36,340
they don't believe alien that's this

3057
02:05:40,770 --> 02:05:38,199
room have to yeah and again that's their

3058
02:05:45,359 --> 02:05:40,780
worldview and I wasn't there I did buy

3059
02:05:48,709 --> 02:05:45,369
the DVD set of the conference but and

3060
02:05:51,029 --> 02:05:48,719
some of the guys I actually know but um

3061
02:05:54,089 --> 02:05:51,039
will give us give us a sense of their

3062
02:05:57,089 --> 02:05:54,099
thinking I mean why would what what what

3063
02:06:00,479 --> 02:05:57,099
do they believe and I just cringe every

3064
02:06:02,700 --> 02:06:00,489
time I use that word they'll use blood

3065
02:06:03,930 --> 02:06:02,710
Hopkins stuff or David Jacobs stuff but

3066
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:03,940
they're taking it from a different angle

3067
02:06:07,770 --> 02:06:05,770
and kind of picking out saying note the

3068
02:06:09,899 --> 02:06:07,780
world was this so there might yeah

3069
02:06:11,729 --> 02:06:09,909
they're actually thinking on it I don't

3070
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:11,739
I'm not sure what else to saying but it

3071
02:06:16,169 --> 02:06:14,530
wasn't it wasn't the usual path that we

3072
02:06:18,479 --> 02:06:16,179
get our conferences by and large you

3073
02:06:21,180 --> 02:06:18,489
know give us a sense of what they think

3074
02:06:23,669 --> 02:06:21,190
it is I mean I'm trying to I'm trying a

3075
02:06:25,589 --> 02:06:23,679
fully think it's demonic I mean and

3076
02:06:29,089 --> 02:06:25,599
don't pull up chapter and verse to back

3077
02:06:31,950 --> 02:06:29,099
it up by much and again I mean the the

3078
02:06:34,109 --> 02:06:31,960
mister says you know the Bible is a is a

3079
02:06:35,790 --> 02:06:34,119
book is an extra-special book it's given

3080
02:06:37,020 --> 02:06:35,800
to us outside of space-time because it's

3081
02:06:39,660 --> 02:06:37,030
telling us stuff in the future

3082
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:39,670
specifically you know and it's you know

3083
02:06:44,459 --> 02:06:41,250
you can look back on some of this stuff

3084
02:06:45,419 --> 02:06:44,469
all of that stuff and say alright when

3085
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:45,429
that happened that happened that

3086
02:06:48,899 --> 02:06:47,440
happened and this guy's you know just a

3087
02:06:49,950 --> 02:06:48,909
certain guy by a certain name was

3088
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:49,960
supposed to do this that in the other

3089
02:06:52,799 --> 02:06:51,250
and he does this at any other and

3090
02:06:55,229 --> 02:06:52,809
there's no way that there could be any

3091
02:06:57,180 --> 02:06:55,239
corroboration between you the times that

3092
02:06:59,250 --> 02:06:57,190
this stuff is written so these guys

3093
02:07:01,229 --> 02:06:59,260
again you're pulling from their third

3094
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:01,239
world view but the world view is an

3095
02:07:05,220 --> 02:07:03,250
alien so for a guy like me anything that

3096
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:05,230
isn't aliens is is you know better than

3097
02:07:08,390 --> 02:07:06,730
what we're dealing with in the UFO

3098
02:07:11,189 --> 02:07:08,400
community because everything is alien

3099
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:11,199
what do you have a problem with in terms

3100
02:07:17,580 --> 02:07:13,690
of aliens I mean now we see more and

3101
02:07:19,709 --> 02:07:17,590
more possible evidence of habitable

3102
02:07:22,189 --> 02:07:19,719
planets yeah we around the government

3103
02:07:24,779 --> 02:07:22,199
and now just LAN had capital our

3104
02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:24,789
telescope just came up with enough

3105
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:27,190
information to add eight possible

3106
02:07:35,580 --> 02:07:30,960
Goldilocks M type habitable worlds in

3107
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:35,590
our galaxy so why not have ET visit us

3108
02:07:40,890 --> 02:07:38,530
it's possible that life is plentiful

3109
02:07:43,980 --> 02:07:40,900
it's a Star Trek universe yeah until you

3110
02:07:45,540 --> 02:07:43,990
throw the Fermi you know the firm you

3111
02:07:47,430 --> 02:07:45,550
can hit theory into it and then I can't

3112
02:07:48,150 --> 02:07:47,440
this thing's like a thin out an awful

3113
02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:48,160
lot yeah

3114
02:07:54,720 --> 02:07:52,000
it's there's house so explain this I'm

3115
02:07:56,010 --> 02:07:54,730
not understanding this because if you

3116
02:07:57,840 --> 02:07:56,020
get within the biblical crowd they said

3117
02:07:59,820 --> 02:07:57,850
well the aliens coming to whoa who

3118
02:08:02,070 --> 02:07:59,830
created you now you get this kind of

3119
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:02,080
chasing your tail situation yeah but

3120
02:08:06,540 --> 02:08:03,850
then they get to the back point here is

3121
02:08:08,810 --> 02:08:06,550
what if we were created as part of a

3122
02:08:10,650 --> 02:08:08,820
genetic experiment is conducted by

3123
02:08:13,530 --> 02:08:10,660
extraterrestrials they take the local

3124
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:13,540
life-forms and maybe they find humanoid

3125
02:08:19,470 --> 02:08:16,330
similar to them and they engage in

3126
02:08:22,140 --> 02:08:19,480
genetic manipulation and they create the

3127
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:22,150
hybrid race that maybe David Jacobs is

3128
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:24,010
talking about now but maybe we are the

3129
02:08:29,070 --> 02:08:26,890
hybrid race that was created thousands

3130
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:29,080
of years ago in the garden if he ignore

3131
02:08:32,550 --> 02:08:31,090
whatever what's wrong with that why

3132
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:32,560
should we worry about that if it

3133
02:08:36,270 --> 02:08:34,570
happened it happened you see the thing

3134
02:08:38,550 --> 02:08:36,280
is gene before this that narrative came

3135
02:08:40,020 --> 02:08:38,560
around the biblical narrative of always

3136
02:08:41,610 --> 02:08:40,030
saying to five thousand years ago you

3137
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:41,620
know that's the difference it's kind of

3138
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:43,090
it's a concept that's been basically

3139
02:08:47,970 --> 02:08:45,730
borrowed from that that train of thought

3140
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:47,980
okay so therefore what's wrong with it

3141
02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:49,450
just insert aliens at this bring one

3142
02:08:54,390 --> 02:08:51,310
okay but what's wrong with that concept

3143
02:08:56,940 --> 02:08:54,400
there's not but again I mean the odds of

3144
02:08:58,230 --> 02:08:56,950
it what we're seeing is not God are you

3145
02:09:00,540 --> 02:08:58,240
know so far I'm not getting a straight

3146
02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:00,550
answer the odds of what the odds of

3147
02:09:06,420 --> 02:09:03,760
beings coming from another planet

3148
02:09:08,820 --> 02:09:06,430
visiting us is pretty remote well we're

3149
02:09:10,740 --> 02:09:08,830
talking about being here for thousands

3150
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:10,750
of years we're talking about the

3151
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:13,930
possibility that there are intelligent

3152
02:09:18,330 --> 02:09:16,480
life forms on other planets in our

3153
02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:18,340
universe and that appears to be very

3154
02:09:23,010 --> 02:09:21,280
likely so we're talking about what we're

3155
02:09:25,170 --> 02:09:23,020
talking genius conjecture we have no

3156
02:09:27,990 --> 02:09:25,180
created any juror but you know what we

3157
02:09:30,690 --> 02:09:28,000
have no proof of aliens but at this

3158
02:09:32,970 --> 02:09:30,700
point we have just books to prove the

3159
02:09:35,130 --> 02:09:32,980
events in the Bible we have a book and

3160
02:09:38,130 --> 02:09:35,140
we have other people who wrote other

3161
02:09:41,630 --> 02:09:38,140
books great but but that book has been

3162
02:09:45,210 --> 02:09:41,640
just found historically genealogy near

3163
02:09:47,850 --> 02:09:45,220
genealogically you know you know again I

3164
02:09:49,590 --> 02:09:47,860
I have a problem with that the Bible was

3165
02:09:53,010 --> 02:09:49,600
written by at least 60 different

3166
02:09:56,490 --> 02:09:53,020
individuals just based on writings

3167
02:10:00,810 --> 02:09:56,500
the depth and quality of revisions that

3168
02:10:04,580 --> 02:10:00,820
have been made it's to me the Bible is a

3169
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:04,590
very effective control mechanism to

3170
02:10:11,970 --> 02:10:09,010
colonize people's you know souls

3171
02:10:13,740 --> 02:10:11,980
or their spirits and control them let

3172
02:10:15,810 --> 02:10:13,750
this let's break it here and let's get

3173
02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:15,820
into that discussion David you'll have

3174
02:10:19,319 --> 02:10:17,110
your chance to give an answer in a

3175
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:19,329
moment with Jeanne and Chris you're in

3176
02:10:29,250 --> 02:10:27,010
the period cast not just an alternative

3177
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:29,260
to the mainstream media we're the

3178
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:32,650
premiere independent radio network we

3179
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are G the N graphic converter is the

3180
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image manipulation tool for the rest of

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3202
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3203
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3204
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3205
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3206
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3207
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3209
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3210
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3218
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3219
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3220
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for listeners of this station but it

3221
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:25,899
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3222
02:12:29,850 --> 02:12:27,610
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3223
02:12:31,649 --> 02:12:29,860
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3224
02:12:34,439 --> 02:12:31,659
that's one eight hundred eighty seven

3225
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3226
02:12:39,569 --> 02:12:36,429
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3227
02:12:41,669 --> 02:12:39,579
five yeah you want to see me sir well I

3228
02:12:43,199 --> 02:12:41,679
did and now that I do a month sure sir

3229
02:12:45,239 --> 02:12:43,209
Johnson I got a mission for you I could

3230
02:12:46,859 --> 02:12:45,249
change your life good certain involves

3231
02:12:48,149 --> 02:12:46,869
traveling halfway around the world bled

3232
02:12:49,169 --> 02:12:48,159
so much as half a clue where you're

3233
02:12:51,449 --> 02:12:49,179
going or what you're gonna do when you

3234
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:51,459
get there situation normal sir hey well

3235
02:12:54,479 --> 02:12:53,050
I'll be leading this mission Johnson so

3236
02:12:56,009 --> 02:12:54,489
I'll be telling you what to do you sir

3237
02:12:56,819 --> 02:12:56,019
that's right Johnson and I say first

3238
02:12:59,040 --> 02:12:56,829
things first

3239
02:13:01,229 --> 02:12:59,050
good plan sir and when I say is first is

3240
02:13:03,149 --> 02:13:01,239
food always remember that Johnson food

3241
02:13:04,020 --> 02:13:03,159
is a big deal Sara my brother-in-law can

3242
02:13:06,270 --> 02:13:04,030
give us a really good deal on some

3243
02:13:08,129 --> 02:13:06,280
surplus MREs Johnson if you've got half

3244
02:13:09,899 --> 02:13:08,139
a brain and that empty head of yours

3245
02:13:11,759 --> 02:13:09,909
you'll call the freeze dry guy like I

3246
02:13:13,979 --> 02:13:11,769
did that food is better for you it

3247
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:13,989
rehydrates faster and it's good and

3248
02:13:18,929 --> 02:13:16,570
Johnson and it keeps for up to 30 years

3249
02:13:20,879 --> 02:13:18,939
we be gone that long sir well I hope not

3250
02:13:22,889 --> 02:13:20,889
now get your supplies organized and meet

3251
02:13:25,159 --> 02:13:22,899
me down to the pier at dawn and Sunday

3252
02:13:27,719 --> 02:13:25,169
we sail right yes sir

3253
02:13:30,929 --> 02:13:27,729
this adventure is brought to you by the

3254
02:13:33,839 --> 02:13:30,939
freeze dry guy call eight six six four

3255
02:13:36,709 --> 02:13:33,849
oh four three six six three or visit

3256
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3257
02:13:41,549 --> 02:13:39,669
this alert just came in this special

3258
02:13:43,739 --> 02:13:41,559
announcement is for business owners and

3259
02:13:45,949 --> 02:13:43,749
leaders of organizations who've been

3260
02:13:48,509 --> 02:13:45,959
waiting for the right time to build

3261
02:13:50,399 --> 02:13:48,519
general steel has made it impossible to

3262
02:13:52,589 --> 02:13:50,409
wait any longer with rock-bottom prices

3263
02:13:54,929 --> 02:13:52,599
that could save you thousands that's

3264
02:13:57,060 --> 02:13:54,939
right general steel America's leader in

3265
02:13:58,949 --> 02:13:57,070
pre engineered structures is offering

3266
02:14:01,409 --> 02:13:58,959
buildings at prices you will never see

3267
02:14:04,500 --> 02:14:01,419
again don't miss these prices of 50 by

3268
02:14:06,959 --> 02:14:04,510
100 for $35,000 you heard right that's

3269
02:14:08,729 --> 02:14:06,969
5000 square feet for $35,000

3270
02:14:10,979 --> 02:14:08,739
manufacturers if you need a larger

3271
02:14:12,209 --> 02:14:10,989
building try a 100 by 100 commercial

3272
02:14:14,250 --> 02:14:12,219
building for a hundred and twenty nine

3273
02:14:16,619 --> 02:14:14,260
thousand you can't afford to rent with

3274
02:14:18,179 --> 02:14:16,629
these prices imagine a 70 by 100 foot

3275
02:14:20,200 --> 02:14:18,189
church building for under sixty nine

3276
02:14:21,940 --> 02:14:20,210
thousand dollars with the economy in

3277
02:14:24,100 --> 02:14:21,950
proving an interest rate still at

3278
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:24,110
historic lows you can't afford to wait

3279
02:14:32,500 --> 02:14:28,400
so call 866 91 steel lock in your price

3280
02:14:40,600 --> 02:14:32,510
now call 866 91 steel that's eight six

3281
02:14:44,130 --> 02:14:40,610
six nine one seven 8335 hi this is Nate

3282
02:14:49,690 --> 02:14:47,080
okay we're talking about biblical

3283
02:14:53,620 --> 02:14:49,700
scholarship I guess interpretations of

3284
02:14:57,490 --> 02:14:53,630
the Bible and whether it's possible we

3285
02:15:00,220 --> 02:14:57,500
were seeded by ET David Senate I realize

3286
02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:00,230
you don't even want to consider that

3287
02:15:03,610 --> 02:15:02,330
possibility seriously right gene you

3288
02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:03,620
gotta realize I came out of that

3289
02:15:09,130 --> 02:15:05,930
possibility no that's what I believe for

3290
02:15:11,709 --> 02:15:09,140
you know good good stretch sure but why

3291
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:11,719
assume that the biblical explanation is

3292
02:15:18,340 --> 02:15:16,370
any better for me and this is I guess

3293
02:15:20,860 --> 02:15:18,350
it's a personal thing but it's a better

3294
02:15:23,200 --> 02:15:20,870
fit I mean it sounds like that safe it's

3295
02:15:25,660 --> 02:15:23,210
a better fit is not evidence it's what I

3296
02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:25,670
believe it or a sound good that's it you

3297
02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:27,290
have to really understand those texts I

3298
02:15:31,630 --> 02:15:28,850
mean you have to understand what they're

3299
02:15:33,459 --> 02:15:31,640
saying I mean yeah I can be used I'm

3300
02:15:35,170 --> 02:15:33,469
sure every any kind of a text can be

3301
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:35,180
used to control population if it's got

3302
02:15:39,700 --> 02:15:37,010
the right stuff in it but if you read

3303
02:15:42,450 --> 02:15:39,710
these if you read the text the text

3304
02:15:44,260 --> 02:15:42,460
start you know the funny thing is that

3305
02:15:45,490 --> 02:15:44,270
forewarning us the whole time to watch

3306
02:15:47,050 --> 02:15:45,500
out for these people and these people in

3307
02:15:48,790 --> 02:15:47,060
this watch out for people with colorful

3308
02:15:51,010 --> 02:15:48,800
robes and the funny hats or whatever you

3309
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:51,020
know they're they're saying you know

3310
02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:52,850
nobody's like really paying attention to

3311
02:15:55,479 --> 02:15:54,290
it you know that they're using it for

3312
02:15:56,979 --> 02:15:55,489
the control but if you're actually

3313
02:15:59,140 --> 02:15:56,989
understand reading and understanding and

3314
02:16:01,360 --> 02:15:59,150
understand the narrative from be getting

3315
02:16:02,650 --> 02:16:01,370
you know because from the front of

3316
02:16:04,990 --> 02:16:02,660
people wait a minute how do we know the

3317
02:16:07,390 --> 02:16:05,000
narrative is real we don't have any any

3318
02:16:09,310 --> 02:16:07,400
real concrete proof sure we have you

3319
02:16:11,140 --> 02:16:09,320
know some circumstantial evidence that

3320
02:16:14,110 --> 02:16:11,150
indicates like like don't you those are

3321
02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:14,120
Adamas we have historians and

3322
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:16,250
theologians I mean we have I mean it's

3323
02:16:20,080 --> 02:16:17,690
the law it sounds to me like we're

3324
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:20,090
manufacturing evidence to fit a

3325
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:21,770
particular worldview we're looking at

3326
02:16:25,900 --> 02:16:23,450
something that was written by people a

3327
02:16:27,459 --> 02:16:25,910
couple of thousands of years ago we're

3328
02:16:30,190 --> 02:16:27,469
trying to apply it to our daily lives

3329
02:16:32,110 --> 02:16:30,200
and it may remain on apply and certainly

3330
02:16:33,490 --> 02:16:32,120
there are nice things in the Bible I've

3331
02:16:35,259 --> 02:16:33,500
read portions of the Bible

3332
02:16:37,209 --> 02:16:35,269
I think we all have and there are things

3333
02:16:39,549 --> 02:16:37,219
in there which are right you know you

3334
02:16:40,810 --> 02:16:39,559
want to be nice to other people you

3335
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:40,820
don't want to kill people

3336
02:16:45,910 --> 02:16:43,130
you know all this stuff for 10

3337
02:16:50,490 --> 02:16:45,920
commandments I can dig that you know

3338
02:16:53,530 --> 02:16:50,500
that's fine but you can't prove really

3339
02:16:56,879 --> 02:16:53,540
what the source of this was other than a

3340
02:17:00,700 --> 02:16:56,889
bunch of people saying things that were

3341
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:00,710
edited revised written hundreds of years

3342
02:17:05,580 --> 02:17:03,050
after the original events and you know

3343
02:17:08,799 --> 02:17:05,590
and I know that if you take two

3344
02:17:12,430 --> 02:17:08,809
reporters skilled reporters to cover an

3345
02:17:14,110 --> 02:17:12,440
event now you will get two totally

3346
02:17:15,459 --> 02:17:14,120
different versions of the stories now

3347
02:17:18,970 --> 02:17:15,469
we're looking at two thousand years ago

3348
02:17:20,860 --> 02:17:18,980
a primitive society maybe strange things

3349
02:17:23,140 --> 02:17:20,870
happened that they are trying to

3350
02:17:25,570 --> 02:17:23,150
interpret then they're reinterpreted

3351
02:17:27,790 --> 02:17:25,580
then hundreds of years later a bunch of

3352
02:17:30,009 --> 02:17:27,800
people get together and say let's do it

3353
02:17:31,810 --> 02:17:30,019
this way let's do it that way and why

3354
02:17:34,180 --> 02:17:31,820
should the Christian Bible be any better

3355
02:17:36,190 --> 02:17:34,190
than the Koran or any other religious

3356
02:17:37,959 --> 02:17:36,200
text that's again that's where the

3357
02:17:40,930 --> 02:17:37,969
digging in kind of comes in because you

3358
02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:40,940
realize that most of the argument isn't

3359
02:17:45,790 --> 02:17:43,519
true it's and most of its been refuted I

3360
02:17:47,500 --> 02:17:45,800
mean it's but it's the most attack well

3361
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:47,510
okay refuting let's let you know all

3362
02:17:51,250 --> 02:17:49,130
you're doing is speaking in generalities

3363
02:17:53,470 --> 02:17:51,260
let's refute it are you saying then the

3364
02:17:55,780 --> 02:17:53,480
Christian Bible is accurate but the

3365
02:17:57,790 --> 02:17:55,790
other religious texts for other

3366
02:18:00,310 --> 02:17:57,800
religions or not it's not as

3367
02:18:02,950 --> 02:18:00,320
us-against-them thing it's the text

3368
02:18:05,950 --> 02:18:02,960
itself say for instance if you take the

3369
02:18:07,990 --> 02:18:05,960
first ten matriarch of the of the Old

3370
02:18:10,750 --> 02:18:08,000
Testament and you translate what their

3371
02:18:13,060 --> 02:18:10,760
name is what their names mean and you do

3372
02:18:15,580 --> 02:18:13,070
it in order it gives you it gives you

3373
02:18:17,860 --> 02:18:15,590
the exact description of what the New

3374
02:18:19,180 --> 02:18:17,870
Testament going to be yeah I don't look

3375
02:18:22,330 --> 02:18:19,190
at it and I look at it's more of a

3376
02:18:23,799 --> 02:18:22,340
historical statistical document okay so

3377
02:18:26,589 --> 02:18:23,809
you're saying here that everything

3378
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:26,599
that's in the Bible as we know it

3379
02:18:32,669 --> 02:18:29,050
I'm stacker Utley describes sir

3380
02:18:35,799 --> 02:18:32,679
accurately describe events that happened

3381
02:18:38,799 --> 02:18:35,809
2,000 years ago whatever accurately this

3382
02:18:41,470 --> 02:18:38,809
is historical text it's not allegorical

3383
02:18:43,839 --> 02:18:41,480
even the parting of the river and all

3384
02:18:45,129 --> 02:18:43,849
that stuff that's a historical book it's

3385
02:18:47,379 --> 02:18:45,139
probably one of the hands-down best

3386
02:18:49,660 --> 02:18:47,389
historical books that we have

3387
02:18:51,690 --> 02:18:49,670
in historicity of its it's been proven

3388
02:18:54,550 --> 02:18:51,700
okay there was an atom there was an eve

3389
02:18:57,610 --> 02:18:54,560
Noah was involved in the ship with all

3390
02:18:58,959 --> 02:18:57,620
those animals you know I mean now we're

3391
02:19:00,640 --> 02:18:58,969
getting to the theological end of it I

3392
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:00,650
mean but okay but you say the book is

3393
02:19:04,480 --> 02:19:02,240
accurate it's a little late a bit any

3394
02:19:06,280 --> 02:19:04,490
specific DNA studies already showed us

3395
02:19:07,270 --> 02:19:06,290
that we all came from one woman so you

3396
02:19:10,150 --> 02:19:07,280
know that kind of meets up Abed

3397
02:19:12,520 --> 02:19:10,160
narrative and well it's that no no no it

3398
02:19:15,160 --> 02:19:12,530
hasn't the world are seen women but I

3399
02:19:16,660 --> 02:19:15,170
don't want to quibble what's that what's

3400
02:19:19,240 --> 02:19:16,670
that guys well what about what about

3401
02:19:21,339 --> 02:19:19,250
John the divine and the real revelations

3402
02:19:23,650 --> 02:19:21,349
I mean do you accept that as as an

3403
02:19:26,169 --> 02:19:23,660
accurate description of events that have

3404
02:19:27,669 --> 02:19:26,179
yet to transpire I didn't but I

3405
02:19:29,589 --> 02:19:27,679
understand those texts I spent a lot of

3406
02:19:30,730 --> 02:19:29,599
time you can't understand it back into

3407
02:19:32,500 --> 02:19:30,740
the book Kristen do you understand the

3408
02:19:34,480 --> 02:19:32,510
front of the book and then once you get

3409
02:19:36,820 --> 02:19:34,490
to the back end you this is 20 years

3410
02:19:39,610 --> 02:19:36,830
going into this again you know there's

3411
02:19:41,830 --> 02:19:39,620
things that are within that book or or

3412
02:19:44,709 --> 02:19:41,840
unique to that book and that's just the

3413
02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:44,719
reality for me it's a it's a trustworthy

3414
02:19:50,650 --> 02:19:48,080
historical guide that I came at a UFO

3415
02:19:52,930 --> 02:19:50,660
research into that says already well

3416
02:19:56,110 --> 02:19:52,940
this stuff is going on then these people

3417
02:19:58,420 --> 02:19:56,120
have this worldview of this why do they

3418
02:20:00,580 --> 02:19:58,430
have this worldview and maybe consider

3419
02:20:02,470 --> 02:20:00,590
this is a primitive race compared to

3420
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:02,480
ours they don't have our level of

3421
02:20:07,930 --> 02:20:04,730
technology they aren't even aware of

3422
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:07,940
whether the earth is flat or not you

3423
02:20:11,410 --> 02:20:09,650
know they don't have these

3424
02:20:13,660 --> 02:20:11,420
understandings and they're trying to

3425
02:20:15,970 --> 02:20:13,670
interpret things in accordance with

3426
02:20:18,460 --> 02:20:15,980
their understanding and we're trying to

3427
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:18,470
manipulate what we see something that

3428
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:21,200
has been edited which is one of the

3429
02:20:24,730 --> 02:20:22,880
points I bring up this is not the pure

3430
02:20:26,770 --> 02:20:24,740
text there's no pure text here if

3431
02:20:29,400 --> 02:20:26,780
somebody set this down and without

3432
02:20:32,200 --> 02:20:29,410
alteration that record has persisted for

3433
02:20:34,960 --> 02:20:32,210
2,000 years that's not the case it was

3434
02:20:37,150 --> 02:20:34,970
edited it was reinterpreted it was

3435
02:20:39,400 --> 02:20:37,160
translated when you translate things

3436
02:20:41,860 --> 02:20:39,410
some of it gets lost in the translation

3437
02:20:44,250 --> 02:20:41,870
because of differences in language and

3438
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:44,260
grammar and syntax

3439
02:20:48,610 --> 02:20:46,490
we know that the tours that they have

3440
02:20:49,990 --> 02:20:48,620
nowadays when they found the Dead Sea

3441
02:20:51,700 --> 02:20:50,000
Scrolls they found the Complete Book of

3442
02:20:52,030 --> 02:20:51,710
Isaiah it was exactly like they have

3443
02:20:54,520 --> 02:20:52,040
today

3444
02:20:56,440 --> 02:20:54,530
and there's a term that's coin there now

3445
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one yacht or tittle will be changed in

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the law and by and large it hasn't and

3447
02:21:02,980 --> 02:21:00,740
that's why you know the difference is

3448
02:21:04,360 --> 02:21:02,990
subtle it's like you know go unto or go

3449
02:21:06,190 --> 02:21:04,370
to you still know that the person's

3450
02:21:09,341 --> 02:21:06,200
going to the place okay but what about

3451
02:21:11,711 --> 02:21:09,351
Ezekiel wheels I mean you get the UFO

3452
02:21:13,450 --> 02:21:11,721
translation of it in the four beings but

3453
02:21:14,921 --> 02:21:13,460
the four billion again once you know the

3454
02:21:16,570 --> 02:21:14,931
text you do that the four beams have you

3455
02:21:18,970 --> 02:21:16,580
talking about are the name

3456
02:21:21,070 --> 02:21:18,980
representation of the four Gospels that

3457
02:21:23,290 --> 02:21:21,080
you know happened down the road it's a

3458
02:21:25,930 --> 02:21:23,300
prophetic situation and there's a lot of

3459
02:21:28,421 --> 02:21:25,940
this stuff some saying you were to get a

3460
02:21:29,890 --> 02:21:28,431
real understanding of it statistically

3461
02:21:31,540 --> 02:21:29,900
that's just put it this you have to be a

3462
02:21:32,620 --> 02:21:31,550
biblical scholars you really have to put

3463
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:32,630
the time and where do you come down on

3464
02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:35,690
the Bible code folks and and the Bible

3465
02:21:40,810 --> 02:21:39,530
is a giant computer that is laid out in

3466
02:21:44,140 --> 02:21:40,820
such a way that you could pretty much

3467
02:21:46,660 --> 02:21:44,150
find anything you want based on on on a

3468
02:21:48,220 --> 02:21:46,670
particular inherent code within the text

3469
02:21:50,500 --> 02:21:48,230
I'll talk about that as matter of fact

3470
02:21:52,180 --> 02:21:50,510
because a lot of those old cryptologists

3471
02:21:55,690 --> 02:21:52,190
from NSA and all the you know alphabet

3472
02:21:57,461 --> 02:21:55,700
soup guys they all came into this Bible

3473
02:21:59,051 --> 02:21:57,471
code thing basically debunk it and what

3474
02:22:01,390 --> 02:21:59,061
they and this is like one of the things

3475
02:22:03,461 --> 02:22:01,400
that they found there's a genealogy in

3476
02:22:05,560 --> 02:22:03,471
Matthew of Jesus and he goes through all

3477
02:22:07,631 --> 02:22:05,570
the mishmash whatnot but what they found

3478
02:22:10,421 --> 02:22:07,641
was like all the nouns all the pronouns

3479
02:22:13,810 --> 02:22:10,431
all the vowels all the consonants the

3480
02:22:15,881 --> 02:22:13,820
names the men and women's need just like

3481
02:22:17,980 --> 02:22:15,891
I don't know the conditions like tons of

3482
02:22:19,570 --> 02:22:17,990
these conditions you know it's it's that

3483
02:22:21,400 --> 02:22:19,580
type of stuff many times like does use

3484
02:22:23,650 --> 02:22:21,410
or whatever you know those things they

3485
02:22:25,390 --> 02:22:23,660
realize the entire text is divisible by

3486
02:22:28,120 --> 02:22:25,400
seven all those things are divisible by

3487
02:22:29,500 --> 02:22:28,130
seven so they think well this book had

3488
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:29,510
to be written last because you didn't

3489
02:22:33,131 --> 02:22:31,250
use any of the verbiage from the other

3490
02:22:34,900 --> 02:22:33,141
you know the other books so when they go

3491
02:22:36,790 --> 02:22:34,910
to the other books and put set this up

3492
02:22:38,470 --> 02:22:36,800
they realize all those books all the

3493
02:22:40,390 --> 02:22:38,480
same conditions are all divisible by

3494
02:22:42,700 --> 02:22:40,400
seven and they're like statistically

3495
02:22:44,591 --> 02:22:42,710
this you know ten to the fiftieth is

3496
02:22:46,930 --> 02:22:44,601
considered absurd well this you know

3497
02:22:48,761 --> 02:22:46,940
smokes that thing so they're saying all

3498
02:22:51,461 --> 02:22:48,771
these there's no way no way these guys

3499
02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:51,471
in that time could have coded this like

3500
02:22:55,421 --> 02:22:53,090
this without the use of some sort of

3501
02:22:56,830 --> 02:22:55,431
computer and that's a fraction of the

3502
02:22:58,150 --> 02:22:56,840
stuff that goes on there I mean there's

3503
02:23:00,370 --> 02:22:58,160
well you know you just said you just

3504
02:23:02,890 --> 02:23:00,380
told me here when you say that without

3505
02:23:05,051 --> 02:23:02,900
having a computer why not think that

3506
02:23:07,240 --> 02:23:05,061
maybe someone came here from another

3507
02:23:08,440 --> 02:23:07,250
planet with their computer can we take

3508
02:23:10,360 --> 02:23:08,450
it literally we're taking it literally

3509
02:23:12,609 --> 02:23:10,370
so somebody comes here from another

3510
02:23:14,499 --> 02:23:12,619
planet they have a computer

3511
02:23:17,169 --> 02:23:14,509
this planet by doing genetic

3512
02:23:19,510 --> 02:23:17,179
manipulation you could say all that and

3513
02:23:22,599 --> 02:23:19,520
use the same language in the same syntax

3514
02:23:25,659 --> 02:23:22,609
just realizing it was interpreted by

3515
02:23:27,999 --> 02:23:25,669
more primitive people and you can come

3516
02:23:30,459 --> 02:23:28,009
to that same conclusion and if you

3517
02:23:32,050 --> 02:23:30,469
believe it define now in terms of a

3518
02:23:35,529 --> 02:23:32,060
religion if it meets your needs

3519
02:23:37,300 --> 02:23:35,539
personally I'm up for it that's cool

3520
02:23:39,729 --> 02:23:37,310
it doesn't matter what that religion is

3521
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if you're not hurting anybody if you're

3522
02:23:44,559 --> 02:23:41,839
not committing violence in the name of

3523
02:23:46,479 --> 02:23:44,569
anybody's religion that's fine

3524
02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:46,489
that's great I don't care what the

3525
02:23:51,399 --> 02:23:48,770
religion is if it works and meets your

3526
02:23:54,010 --> 02:23:51,409
needs that's fine now when you want to

3527
02:23:55,779 --> 02:23:54,020
interpret what those religious texts

3528
02:23:58,269 --> 02:23:55,789
means you'll find those interpretations

3529
02:24:00,249 --> 02:23:58,279
are all over the place you have your

3530
02:24:02,349 --> 02:24:00,259
particular interpretation there are

3531
02:24:04,329 --> 02:24:02,359
others there are different religions and

3532
02:24:07,229 --> 02:24:04,339
I don't think it's fair to say that one

3533
02:24:09,879 --> 02:24:07,239
is more right or viable than another

3534
02:24:11,559 --> 02:24:09,889
okay but we can go on with this and

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we'll continue our discussion I think we

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might even have a question or two from

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the forums yeah any chance let me just

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do our break here David senators joining

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never forget a former US military

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destroying the earth and now the

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think about calling an attorney what do

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and i'm with the Coalition for freedom

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of information and you are listening to

3649
02:28:51,440 --> 02:28:49,620
the podcast I think this is more of a

3650
02:28:54,501 --> 02:28:51,450
religious discussion than we've gotten

3651
02:28:56,321 --> 02:28:54,511
into on the para cast I am no biblical

3652
02:28:58,881 --> 02:28:56,331
scholar I'm just asking stupid questions

3653
02:29:01,251 --> 02:28:58,891
and Chris may know a little bit more

3654
02:29:03,470 --> 02:29:01,261
than I do which I expect he does we have

3655
02:29:06,051 --> 02:29:03,480
David's tenets but let me just bring

3656
02:29:08,301 --> 02:29:06,061
this to a close here because we're on

3657
02:29:10,761 --> 02:29:08,311
our last segment do you believe in an

3658
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end days that you know we're reaching a

3659
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point where there's going to be an

3660
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Armageddon that overhaul in our

3661
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civilization that we're really screwing

3662
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it up that we're really making a mess of

3663
02:29:22,881 --> 02:29:20,431
things and we don't really strain it out

3664
02:29:24,890 --> 02:29:22,891
someone up there wherever it's going to

3665
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come down here and just fix it for us

3666
02:29:28,371 --> 02:29:26,791
I'm not saying that people have to buy

3667
02:29:30,110 --> 02:29:28,381
this all I'm saying is the people have

3668
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to should be aware of it there's there's

3669
02:29:34,161 --> 02:29:32,461
other pickles as in jar other than what

3670
02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:34,171
we've been pulling out all the time but

3671
02:29:39,110 --> 02:29:36,450
I mean I think whether it's you know

3672
02:29:41,451 --> 02:29:39,120
regular human communities or the UFO

3673
02:29:42,680 --> 02:29:41,461
community or whatever everybody seems to

3674
02:29:45,770 --> 02:29:42,690
have a feeling something's going to pop

3675
02:29:48,381 --> 02:29:45,780
you know so if it's you can't have a you

3676
02:29:49,970 --> 02:29:48,391
know 16 trillion dollar deficit and have

3677
02:29:51,020 --> 02:29:49,980
things be bright and rosy things just

3678
02:29:52,011 --> 02:29:51,030
don't work like that in the real world

3679
02:29:53,661 --> 02:29:52,021
so something

3680
02:29:54,921 --> 02:29:53,671
got a pop before too long how it

3681
02:29:56,600 --> 02:29:54,931
manifests itself is going to be

3682
02:29:58,430 --> 02:29:56,610
interesting well it's going to get a lot

3683
02:30:01,551 --> 02:29:58,440
more interesting before it gets any more

3684
02:30:04,371 --> 02:30:01,561
dull all I can say is you know we're

3685
02:30:07,820 --> 02:30:04,381
dealing with you know a compromise to

3686
02:30:10,251 --> 02:30:07,830
complete global control over the it's

3687
02:30:14,020 --> 02:30:10,261
just its behavior getting really scary

3688
02:30:16,461 --> 02:30:14,030
with the corp autocracy the plutocracy

3689
02:30:19,610 --> 02:30:16,471
converging on fascism that seems to be

3690
02:30:21,951 --> 02:30:19,620
running rampant to the western end of

3691
02:30:25,551 --> 02:30:21,961
the equation and I've been saying this

3692
02:30:27,350 --> 02:30:25,561
for 30 years that however many billion

3693
02:30:29,270 --> 02:30:27,360
Chinese are probably going to be right

3694
02:30:32,390 --> 02:30:29,280
and everybody else is just going to have

3695
02:30:35,690 --> 02:30:32,400
to be accepting of that but in terms of

3696
02:30:37,850 --> 02:30:35,700
some sort of apocalyptic scenario I

3697
02:30:40,011 --> 02:30:37,860
think it's much more likely that we'll

3698
02:30:44,150 --> 02:30:40,021
be hit by an asteroid or a coronal mass

3699
02:30:48,921 --> 02:30:44,160
ejection or some sort of a possible

3700
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plate tectonic events that maybe Domino

3701
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out of control I think the natural

3702
02:30:59,631 --> 02:30:55,290
events are as likely as any sort of

3703
02:31:01,730 --> 02:30:59,641
cataclysmic human derived catastrophes

3704
02:31:04,161 --> 02:31:01,740
you know money is money debt is debt

3705
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when you know chains of volcanoes start

3706
02:31:08,661 --> 02:31:06,120
popping off or when we get hit fried by

3707
02:31:11,121 --> 02:31:08,671
the Sun or hit by a huge body

3708
02:31:14,241 --> 02:31:11,131
you know curling through space at you

3709
02:31:15,951 --> 02:31:14,251
know 55 uh how many feet per second

3710
02:31:18,831 --> 02:31:15,961
through how many miles rather per second

3711
02:31:20,841 --> 02:31:18,841
then you know that's that's catastrophic

3712
02:31:23,480 --> 02:31:20,851
so do you have a sense that this is

3713
02:31:24,680 --> 02:31:23,490
coming that it's pending that's

3714
02:31:26,661 --> 02:31:24,690
something that we really have to be

3715
02:31:28,911 --> 02:31:26,671
concerned with in our lifetime or do you

3716
02:31:31,280 --> 02:31:28,921
think we you know maybe know mankind I

3717
02:31:33,020 --> 02:31:31,290
mean mankind is we can given a perfect

3718
02:31:35,030 --> 02:31:33,030
situational screwed up every single time

3719
02:31:36,831 --> 02:31:35,040
it's just kind of how we work so it's

3720
02:31:39,470 --> 02:31:36,841
it's hard to say how it's going to play

3721
02:31:40,610 --> 02:31:39,480
out but yeah I think we all have a

3722
02:31:42,440 --> 02:31:40,620
feeling that something's going to

3723
02:31:44,001 --> 02:31:42,450
something's gonna change it's gonna be

3724
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:44,011
interesting to see see what that change

3725
02:31:48,890 --> 02:31:46,730
exactly is going to be and and how

3726
02:31:51,801 --> 02:31:48,900
frosted we're going to be about whatever

3727
02:31:54,921 --> 02:31:51,811
change is gonna be imposed on us a lot

3728
02:31:57,081 --> 02:31:54,931
of indigenous cultures kind of hint

3729
02:31:59,631 --> 02:31:57,091
around at that especially those several

3730
02:32:01,780 --> 02:31:59,641
here in North America they've been

3731
02:32:05,660 --> 02:32:01,790
saying for a number of years now that

3732
02:32:08,960 --> 02:32:05,670
that we are headed into the final appear

3733
02:32:12,650 --> 02:32:08,970
period of this particular world you know

3734
02:32:14,450 --> 02:32:12,660
this time around here and that it's not

3735
02:32:15,770 --> 02:32:14,460
going to be pretty in terms of the

3736
02:32:19,700 --> 02:32:15,780
cleansing that's going to happen between

3737
02:32:21,440 --> 02:32:19,710
now and in the in the Pueblo tradition

3738
02:32:23,510 --> 02:32:21,450
here the Popol Indians they talk about

3739
02:32:25,670 --> 02:32:23,520
the fourth world you know ending in the

3740
02:32:27,170 --> 02:32:25,680
fifth world beginning of course a lot of

3741
02:32:29,660 --> 02:32:27,180
people interpreted the end of the Bock

3742
02:32:33,110 --> 02:32:29,670
tune and the the Mayan calendar in the

3743
02:32:34,610 --> 02:32:33,120
Long Count cycle as being a portent of

3744
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:34,620
that change and of course here we are

3745
02:32:40,760 --> 02:32:38,010
almost you know two years later two

3746
02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:40,770
years later rather and you know

3747
02:32:46,910 --> 02:32:43,770
everything is still screwed up what

3748
02:32:50,510 --> 02:32:46,920
everybody it once once whoever they are

3749
02:32:54,320 --> 02:32:50,520
control the fuel the energy and the food

3750
02:32:56,870 --> 02:32:54,330
it's done and you know most of our 70%

3751
02:32:58,370 --> 02:32:56,880
of our of our our grain stock is

3752
02:32:59,840 --> 02:32:58,380
genetically modified I mean it doesn't

3753
02:33:02,510 --> 02:32:59,850
reproduce you got to go back to come you

3754
02:33:04,070 --> 02:33:02,520
get seed so you know as far as food goes

3755
02:33:06,170 --> 02:33:04,080
you've almost got three I mean people

3756
02:33:08,060 --> 02:33:06,180
are fighting the Monsanto and getting

3757
02:33:09,860 --> 02:33:08,070
heirloom lead seeds and stuff like that

3758
02:33:12,230 --> 02:33:09,870
but I mean there's things going on

3759
02:33:14,030 --> 02:33:12,240
around us you know yeah I agree the

3760
02:33:17,060 --> 02:33:14,040
demonic forces on this planet are very

3761
02:33:20,929 --> 02:33:17,070
very human and very uh they wear

3762
02:33:23,240 --> 02:33:20,939
three-piece suits and my estimation you

3763
02:33:25,610 --> 02:33:23,250
want you want to know you got your

3764
02:33:26,780 --> 02:33:25,620
demons I guess got them right here all

3765
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:26,790
you have to do is go to the halls of

3766
02:33:31,100 --> 02:33:29,130
Congress or in any boardroom and some of

3767
02:33:33,350 --> 02:33:31,110
these some of these corporations that

3768
02:33:37,040 --> 02:33:33,360
are gobbling up everything and everybody

3769
02:33:39,410 --> 02:33:37,050
that that to me is scary you know a UFO

3770
02:33:42,890 --> 02:33:39,420
coming down and handing me a buckwheat

3771
02:33:46,250 --> 02:33:42,900
pancake I can deal with that it's

3772
02:33:47,750 --> 02:33:46,260
strange strange those type of Benny's we

3773
02:33:50,030 --> 02:33:47,760
have from our space brothers and they

3774
02:33:53,179 --> 02:33:50,040
don't come down do anything about

3775
02:33:55,040 --> 02:33:53,189
nuclear spills or anything like that you

3776
02:33:57,290 --> 02:33:55,050
know they think we shouldn't expect them

3777
02:33:59,810 --> 02:33:57,300
to either I think you know it's a case

3778
02:34:02,000 --> 02:33:59,820
of making your bed and having to lie in

3779
02:34:04,910 --> 02:34:02,010
it and deal with it and that's basically

3780
02:34:07,160 --> 02:34:04,920
what's been going on and you're right

3781
02:34:10,130 --> 02:34:07,170
you know the perforation of GMO crops

3782
02:34:11,929 --> 02:34:10,140
that are spreading around you know

3783
02:34:14,780 --> 02:34:11,939
Fukushima we haven't even talked about

3784
02:34:17,270 --> 02:34:14,790
that the Pacific Ocean is dying the

3785
02:34:18,831 --> 02:34:17,280
amount of plastic is floating around in

3786
02:34:20,930 --> 02:34:18,841
our oceans

3787
02:34:23,060 --> 02:34:20,940
the cattle herds devastating the

3788
02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:23,070
environment contributing to the single

3789
02:34:26,241 --> 02:34:24,450
biggest cause why the rainforests are

3790
02:34:28,161 --> 02:34:26,251
being cut down I could go on and on and

3791
02:34:30,320 --> 02:34:28,171
on all this stuff has got to come to a

3792
02:34:32,631 --> 02:34:30,330
head at some point whenever there's any

3793
02:34:34,730 --> 02:34:32,641
sort of demonic force its corporate in

3794
02:34:37,551 --> 02:34:34,740
nature we've hardly heard anything out

3795
02:34:39,350 --> 02:34:37,561
of Fukushima Chris it's like no no it's

3796
02:34:40,940 --> 02:34:39,360
like the media on it shut down you'll

3797
02:34:42,980 --> 02:34:40,950
get some people am just like I'm not

3798
02:34:44,661 --> 02:34:42,990
seeing it in my headline you know I have

3799
02:34:46,190 --> 02:34:44,671
some pretty extensive feeds coming in

3800
02:34:48,501 --> 02:34:46,200
from all over the place and I'm just

3801
02:34:50,841 --> 02:34:48,511
you'll get kind of little drips and

3802
02:34:53,390 --> 02:34:50,851
drabs from Fukushima or maybe from west

3803
02:34:54,951 --> 02:34:53,400
coast of California but it's like the

3804
02:34:57,591 --> 02:34:54,961
media coverage on additives has been

3805
02:34:59,001 --> 02:34:57,601
shut down so even even if we think our

3806
02:35:00,051 --> 02:34:59,011
social media can get through on the

3807
02:35:01,850 --> 02:35:00,061
stuff it doesn't seem to be getting

3808
02:35:03,531 --> 02:35:01,860
through on this stuff I'm not on not on

3809
02:35:07,551 --> 02:35:03,541
Fukushima they've just came out with a

3810
02:35:10,991 --> 02:35:07,561
study that's estimating upwards of 85 to

3811
02:35:15,831 --> 02:35:11,001
90 percent of mussels and oysters are

3812
02:35:18,801 --> 02:35:15,841
dying off in a new you know new oysters

3813
02:35:22,371 --> 02:35:18,811
and new new mussels so instead of you

3814
02:35:24,921 --> 02:35:22,381
know having a 1 in a 1 and 2 chance of

3815
02:35:27,320 --> 02:35:24,931
surviving now 90% of them are dying off

3816
02:35:29,360 --> 02:35:27,330
before they they reach maturity so I

3817
02:35:32,421 --> 02:35:29,370
mean that's that in and of itself is a

3818
02:35:34,190 --> 02:35:32,431
huge huge problem and I like it

3819
02:35:36,430 --> 02:35:34,200
I'm actually working up a lecture right

3820
02:35:39,501 --> 02:35:36,440
now it's called the UFOs and radiation

3821
02:35:41,930 --> 02:35:39,511
but it's a it's basically taking cases

3822
02:35:44,121 --> 02:35:41,940
and you know questioning what's going on

3823
02:35:45,381 --> 02:35:44,131
here because but even if you get like to

3824
02:35:47,841 --> 02:35:45,391
space for every types and they'll be

3825
02:35:50,180 --> 02:35:47,851
like they said they're not going to

3826
02:35:51,890 --> 02:35:50,190
lattice you know use any nuclear bombs

3827
02:35:53,961 --> 02:35:51,900
this that or the other honestly yeah but

3828
02:35:55,551 --> 02:35:53,971
that was like in 1976 and since then I

3829
02:35:58,850 --> 02:35:55,561
mean we've lit off a total of like

3830
02:36:01,610 --> 02:35:58,860
something like to 2050 nuclear bombs in

3831
02:36:03,650 --> 02:36:01,620
a closed biosphere which is but

3832
02:36:04,730 --> 02:36:03,660
India and Pakistan both went off there's

3833
02:36:07,070 --> 02:36:04,740
I remember seeing the space brothers

3834
02:36:09,591 --> 02:36:07,080
come and stop in any of stuff and so

3835
02:36:11,451 --> 02:36:09,601
then we start we again there's what the

3836
02:36:14,421 --> 02:36:11,461
critical thinking comes in because and

3837
02:36:17,781 --> 02:36:14,431
we're getting fed a line from this stuff

3838
02:36:20,451 --> 02:36:17,791
and we're seeing it the worth of feeding

3839
02:36:23,031 --> 02:36:20,461
us is by and large not very true so yeah

3840
02:36:24,831 --> 02:36:23,041
I don't think anybody who takes a

3841
02:36:27,081 --> 02:36:24,841
reasonable approach of the UFO field

3842
02:36:29,841 --> 02:36:27,091
whatever final theories they have

3843
02:36:31,730 --> 02:36:29,851
believes that et the space brothers or

3844
02:36:33,530 --> 02:36:31,740
whatever will come here

3845
02:36:35,570 --> 02:36:33,540
to help us rather than to harm us that's

3846
02:36:36,740 --> 02:36:35,580
not going to happen they even tell our

3847
02:36:38,750 --> 02:36:36,750
listeners if they want more information

3848
02:36:40,310 --> 02:36:38,760
about what you do where they can get in

3849
02:36:42,500 --> 02:36:40,320
touch with you if you want to get in

3850
02:36:48,440 --> 02:36:42,510
touch with me you can go to my website

3851
02:36:51,220 --> 02:36:48,450
it's w w NJ you fo see calm you can

3852
02:36:53,180 --> 02:36:51,230
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3853
02:36:55,070 --> 02:36:53,190
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3854
02:36:56,301 --> 02:36:55,080
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3855
02:36:59,930 --> 02:36:56,311
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3856
02:37:02,180 --> 02:36:59,940
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3857
02:37:04,360 --> 02:37:02,190
fo junkie David you can see some of the

3858
02:37:06,381 --> 02:37:04,370
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3859
02:37:08,720 --> 02:37:06,391
captures and some of the stuff here in

3860
02:37:10,970 --> 02:37:08,730
Central Jersey I captured and some of

3861
02:37:12,890 --> 02:37:10,980
the interviews I did with Travis Walton

3862
02:37:16,131 --> 02:37:12,900
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3863
02:37:17,540 --> 02:37:16,141
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3864
02:37:20,270 --> 02:37:17,550
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3865
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3866
02:37:26,270 --> 02:37:22,820
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3867
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3868
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3869
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3870
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3871
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3878
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3879
02:38:01,881 --> 02:37:59,370
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3880
02:38:04,070 --> 02:38:01,891
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3881
02:38:07,520 --> 02:38:04,080
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3882
02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:07,530
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3883
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3884
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3885
02:38:17,211 --> 02:38:15,300
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3886
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3887
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3888
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3890
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3891
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3892
02:38:34,020 --> 02:38:32,460
he's going to be fair about this I think

3893
02:38:35,970 --> 02:38:34,030
the number started 10,000

3894
02:38:38,700 --> 02:38:35,980
she did like 10,000 12 or something like

3895
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3896
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3897
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3898
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3899
02:39:02,080 --> 02:38:59,130
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3900
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